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  2. Monty Burns

    Sam Surridge is confirmed

    Surridge won’t be playing in division 4 again next season. Be lucky if he finishes this season down here, nevermind next. Need to go up to even have a remote chance of him staying with us.
  3. lookersstandandy

    Wages surely not again ?

    Fair enough. Let’s hope the journos have nothing more to feed off.
  4. mikejh45

    Wages surely not again ?

    I've nowhere to go with this discussion so we'll just have to disagree, old boy. 👍
  5. lookersstandandy

    Wages surely not again ?

    He’s got plenty right as well.... If it was just Nixon, just Keegan, just the rumour of players threatening strike action, I’d be prepared to be sceptical. It’s not.... it’s all of them....!
  6. latics22

    Wages surely not again ?

    If they haven’t been paid yet, we may as well pack up! It almost pay day again
  7. mikejh45

    Wages surely not again ?

    As has been said before, Nixon throws out enough crap on all clubs that a very tiny percentage turns out to be true. So he's hardly credible. How many stories has Nixon put out in the last couple of years about Latics that have turned out to be bollox?
  8. deyres42

    Wages surely not again ?

    I don't recall the club ever confirming the rumours to be honest.
  9. lookersstandandy

    Wages surely not again ?

    No..... but, Keegan reported it, Nixon reported it, the Trust reacted to it, sought assurances from the club & said the club were going to issue a response, the players were reportedly threatening a strike until dissuaded by Bunn & Rhodes. I think that’s enough noise to suggest the reporting is accurate. Why? It is possible to hold two thoughts simultaneously, 1. That the Mail is an unpleasant publication and 2. Keegan is a journo employed by a Newspaper who’s political views he doesn’t necessarily share. Had Keegan’s reporting of it been, “Foreign football owner hasn’t paid English players on time in favour of players from the EU”, I could understand Keegan being discredited, but that’s not the case.
  10. ghostofcecere

    Wages surely not again ?

    We were promised a statement from the club weren’t we? I took that to mean we’d be told when wages had been paid.
  11. mikejh45

    Wages surely not again ?

    Should the club put out a statement every time a negative story is printed? Or should it quietly go about it's business? I'll go for the latter As for sensationalism......I find it funny that so many people virulently complain/condemn on here about the quality of the Mail's journalism but accept Keegan's stories because they go unchallenged.
  12. lookersstandandy

    Wages surely not again ?

    All journo’s are prone to sensationalism. Right or wrongly, it goes with the territory. I don’t know Mike Keegan, or anything about his character or motives for reporting everything that happens at Latics but I’m glad he does, because it shines a light on the shambollic administration and applies pressure on those in charge to rectify it. In this particular instance, he reported they hadn’t been paid, which appeared accurate on the basis it wasn’t challenged by the club. He further reported they still hadn’t been paid days later, which was seemingly - but by no means certainly - in conflict with information shared by the Trust.
  13. rudemedic

    Carlisle United (H)

    Well I think we may have struggled to pay the players properly back then, not sure about the taxman or the loan fees. You won't find me saying Corney wasn't crooked, nor will you find me saying funding a stand from the club's purse that the club don't own is perfectly reasonable. You'd certainly find me saying selling the sell-on clause was a stupid thing to do. Even more so now Tarky is likely to be sold by Burnley, has played for England and played in Europe, all things likely to earn Brentford money, which in turn would make us money. The Landlords have left us in a worse position than they found us, given Brassbank's address I did wonder if the 'recent' raids by HMRC were more connected to them than the club. There had been some immoral, even if it was legal, accounting going on for some time.
  14. rudemedic

    Carlisle United (H)

    I think you've got yourself confused here. If Matt Smith's contract expired on May 31st, as opposed to June 30th, he'd have been under 24 when his contract expired. So if we had offered him a new contract we'd have gotten a fee. (His birthday is June 7th, I think). Letting his contract run until 30th June, the standard point, and something I'm confident all contracts effectively run until, as set out in FIFA's regulations, means he is over 24 and it doesn't matter how much we'd have offered him he was free to leave and we got nothing. What probably happened was he was announced as leaving the club at the end of May, something that was virtually a fait accompli when he tore Liverpool a new one in January. We signed a cohort of players, Smith, Furman and Lee who are all born in June, we missed out on money for all of them by a few days. That's the way it crumbles. We could and should have offered them a contracts that either took them beyond 24 or expired when they were only 23. I don't think it was necessarily a coincidence on the players part this happened. After all it was well known that one of the reasons Smith signed for us was the 2 year deal we offered him initially. Prior to that Liverpool game we could have offered him a new contract and I think he'd have taken it. However there were rumblings that he was going to be loaned out, having already been loaned out previously as it was felt he wasn't up to it. So offering him a new contract might have looked very foolish. Lee and Furman didn't have stellar careers with us the whole time they were here either.
  15. boundaryblue80

    Carlisle United (H)

    Let us complete the circle then. If we agree to disagree about the Wolves at the door, we surely can agree that the situation was completely self-made (either crookedly or through sheer negligence) and thus cashing in a measly £100k for the sell on clause was utterly unacceptable behaviour. Maybe back then he should’ve dodged the taxman, not paid the players and stiffed clubs for loan fees at the time like the last couple of years. That’s what I call wolves at the door.
  16. rudemedic

    Carlisle United (H)

    I didn't say Corney wasn't crooked. I didn't say that the ticket machines were the sole cause of the debt, although one would presume we pay a deposit in case they get broken, if we rent them. I didn't say we only sold those players in that time. What I did say was that the wolves were at the door, something you refuted. I've given you evidence to say that was still the case.
  17. Dave_Og

    Wages surely not again ?

    A tabloid journalist prone to sensationalism? In other news be careful where you step in timber plantations with significant ursine populations.
  18. oafc1955

    Carlisle United (H)

    And I still fail to see the point of having turnstile operators when we have bar coded ST’s, especially if we are as you say renting the machines😳
  19. boundaryblue80

    Carlisle United (H)

    Your timeline is conveniently missing many things...including the £350k for JHC in Sept 2014. And if Corney was siphoning off the money to give Blitz and Gazal to build a Stand that’s nothing to do with OAFC then the point stands. Crooked. We paid an agreed rent to be at Boundary Park. And if you mean ticket machines on the gates of the new stand, you’re being given duff info. They are rented for matchdays. I found out this season when I had issues getting in with my ST.
  20. mikejh45

    Wages surely not again ?

    I didn't specifically mention Keegan but now you've brought his name up, I will say he is prone to sensationalism hence we are still waiting for this big (his words) close season story. We heard stories from a number of posters with varying sources and Keegan himself posted twice that the players hadn't been paid and someone else in between had stated the players had been paid with the Trust also saying that, according to their information wages had been paid. Based on that.....I don't have a source and am still no wiser but I'm leaning towards the players being paid as it's all gone quiet
  21. rudemedic

    Carlisle United (H)

    I'll do you a timeline: Early Jan 2014- We play Liverpool for the 3rd time in 3 years. Late Jan 2014- We sell Tarky to Brentford. Oct 2015- The new stand opens behind schedule (and is still to be completed). Jan 2016- We sell Philliskirk and Brentford sell Tarky. I was told sometime between October 2015 and Jan 2016 that a company were sending in the bailiffs over £75k worth of debt. I'd think this debt was connected to some of the new stand and/or the new ticket machines that were introduced at the same time. Just because Corney couldn't manage the money and/or overspent, if you remember the stand was more expensive than originally planned, doesn't mean that the wolves weren't at the door. I know it's not nonsense but you keep believing it was if you want.
  22. lookersstandandy

    Wages surely not again ?

    I like & respect a lot of what you post Mike, but I don’t really understand you/any fan digging out Mike Keegan specifically. If the owner of the club paid the wages on time - a basic obligation - then he or any other news-b*stard would have nothing to hover over. All they are doing is reporting the facts. The blame lies entirely with the owner of the club, not the media.
  23. mikejh45

    Wages surely not again ?

    Won't really make any difference...the same news-b*stards will still be hovering next month to see if the players have been paid and they will only stop if it's not an issue for several months.
  24. archiecat

    Wages surely not again ?

    No news is good news with OAFC, any news is usually bad news!
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