oafc joe Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Tbh if Dickov does not sort the defence out (once in a blue moon we keep a clean sheet) he would need to go. We can't go on conceding so many. I think Dickov has a done a very good job upto now, and I would be sad fo see him go, but he just hasn't replaced rubes and greegs. If he can't sort the defence out, IMO he would need to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbob Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 More like a striker. 1 shot on target, 9 off. Ffs. Like saturday all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandspies Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Tbh if Dickov does not sort the defence out (once in a blue moon we keep a clean sheet) he would need to go. We can't go on conceding so many. I think Dickov has a done a very good job upto now, and I would be sad fo see him go, but he just hasn't replaced rubes and greegs. If he can't sort the defence out, IMO he would need to go. What, exactly, is Taggart's job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) he just hasn't replaced rubes and greegs M'Voto and Diamond? What more do you want, they even match colours? Edited March 13, 2012 by JohnnyPimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc joe Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 M'Voto and Diamond? What more do you want, they even match colours? [/quote Diamond is no gregan, no where near ad commanding and m'voto is not as good as hazell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Diamond is no gregan, no where near ad commanding and m'voto is not as good as hazell We'll be lucky to have a 'Gregan' at the club for a while. We was just lucky that Leeds manager at the time (Wise?) didn't get on with Gregan. My view is M'voto is better than Hazell, but simply doesn't have the experience that Hazell had. People forget that M'voto hasn't played that many games. Less than 75 I think, so bound to be mistakes from the him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... What do you think you are doing posting sense on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... Superb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... I have solved it... bring in an experienced left full back, a creative midfielder and a goal poacher....oops my fault I should have done that at the beginning of the season. Edited March 13, 2012 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I have solved it... bring in an experienced left full back, Why is left back such a problem area? Black is more than the equal of any full back I've seen in this division. a creative midfielder Why not bring in a destructive midfielder like Wes and shift Furman further forward to be the creative fulcrum like Dickov did, when they were both fit it was working quite well. and a goal poacher....oops I should have done that at the beginning of the season. Why bother with a poacher when Dickov brought in a proven goal scorer in Kuqi. When we look back on the stats of this season in a few years it will read Kuqi - 20, or thereabouts. Penalties, rasping drives, off his arse, does it matter how they go in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... Excellent post. And that, gentlemen, is the case for the defence. Now, if the prosecution would like to offer some suggestions as to where the much needed replacements will come from, or how we will find the money for them, answers on a postage stamp please. PD has worked minor miracles in bringing some of this squad to the club. You can bet your arse that some of them wouldn't have entertained coming here if PD wasn't in charge. In fact, I don't believe that some would have entertained League 1, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why is left back such a problem area? Black is more than the equal of any full back I've seen in this division. qquare Why not bring in a destructive midfielder like Wes and shift Furman further forward to be the creative fulcrum like Dickov did, when they were both fit it was working quite well. Why bother with a poacher when Dickov brought in a proven goal scorer in Kuqi. When we look back on the stats of this season in a few years it will read Kuqi - 20, or thereabouts. Penalties, rasping drives, off his arse, does it matter how they go in? Its a squad game now, if the replacements aren't adequate it will show in the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 We wouldn't have scored in a month. Forget the defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Its a squad game now, if the replacements aren't adequate it will show in the results. This is true but squads cost money that we don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Our left back is out. Our replacement left back is out. Our makeshift left back is a midfield kid learning the game. Our solid centre back puts his body where it hurts and gets hurt. He can also get hurt watching someone else get hurt. Our other solid centre back is still learning the game. Our ball playing centre back is a young kid who is still learning the game. Our right back is our best player. We have no proper spare right back. Our spare right back - see makeshift left back. Behind that is a keeper in his second full season who is outperforming a large part of the team. What exactly can Dickov, or Taggart do with that lot? The ghost of Bobby Moore, Baresi, Maldini and Carlos :censored:ing Alberto would struggle to get a non-leaky back five out of that. In addition, the 2 best central midfielders, only central midfielders we have on the books are both twiddling their balls in the treatment room. Boo, sack dickov, sack taggart, Taylor is gash, Cisak's a clown, what does pissing Duxbury do? Get yer hand in yer pocket Corney, knocking t'lookers down was bad, whadda ya mean I can't have a tab in the ground, ee, that Denis Irwin, he was a player..... Absolutely spot on Mr Teeets!!! There has been a lot of over reaction on here lately but you have got it spot on! God forbid we lose at Dogdale on Saturday what the reaction will be from some on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 No debate from me. Making the same mistakes as last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 No debate from me. Making the same mistakes as last season. So you're saying get rid? Dickov's doing the best he can, in my opinion... This season has, however, killed the last hope I had that we can get promoted out of this division with a small, honest squad and a decent manager. Unfortunately the only way we're going to do it is by getting a fook load of cash from somewhere and buying a massive squad of mercenaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 So you're saying get rid? Dickov's doing the best he can, in my opinion... This season has, however, killed the last hope I had that we can get promoted out of this division with a small, honest squad and a decent manager. Unfortunately the only way we're going to do it is by getting a fook load of cash from somewhere and buying a massive squad of mercenaries. i dont think he is saying get rid...he is quite rightly pointing out that a season on from last,dickov is still making the same mistakes as last season.....we cant score same as last season......we have made a few positive steps forward then fell firmly back again,like last season......we still dont have a plan b like last season..... we can bemoan lack of funds and small budget on piss poor crowds.....but the mark of a good manager is doing the best with what you have,and after some of the games we have played recently he isnt doing that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 i dont think he is saying get rid...he is quite rightly pointing out that a season on from last,dickov is still making the same mistakes as last season.....we cant score same as last season......we have made a few positive steps forward then fell firmly back again,like last season......we still dont have a plan b like last season..... we can bemoan lack of funds and small budget on piss poor crowds.....but the mark of a good manager is doing the best with what you have,and after some of the games we have played recently he isnt doing that.... Another mark of a good manager is getting players to come to your club who can get more money or play at a higher level elsewhere- Dickov has done that in spades this season (and a bit last too). Our squad looks good on paper for one reason- Dickov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLegend Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Another mark of a good manager is getting players to come to your club who can get more money or play at a higher level elsewhere- Dickov has done that in spades this season (and a bit last too). Our squad looks good on paper for one reason- Dickov. If you cant get them to play and get results is there any point in being able to do this? If Dickov has players who can play at a higher level in his squad why are we in the bottom half of the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 If you cant get them to play and get results is there any point in being able to do this? If Dickov has players who can play at a higher level in his squad why are we in the bottom half of the table? Because the teams above us have played more games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 So you're saying get rid? Dickov's doing the best he can, in my opinion... This season has, however, killed the last hope I had that we can get promoted out of this division with a small, honest squad and a decent manager. Unfortunately the only way we're going to do it is by getting a fook load of cash from somewhere and buying a massive squad of mercenaries. Yes I am saying get rid. I exlplained my reasons a few weeks back, and my opinion still hasn't changed. In case you did not see it : http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=37816&hl=dickov out&st=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 we have to stick with him....its really going to do us no favors keep chopping and chnaging managers.......BUT he has to start learning. As has been said, we're repeating many mistakes from last season and we're now fading away like usual. We have been unlucky with injuries this last few weeks, but i can't help but feel we fit square pegs in round holes too often.... Ok, when injuries happen you have to do that, but, for example: adeyemi at full back at liverpool moving our most consistent player out of position? Scapuzzi playing wide when he's a striker Mellor playing full back when its clear he isn't one (i'd rather see winchester there right now) Diamond - Didn't he play full back one game? Parker - came on trial as a striker, signed as a striker who could play out wide, and put in more appearances at full back than he did up front This happens TOO often....and he's quite often TOO slow to change the team when it's clearly not working. Whoever this striker is who is potentially coming in better be good or we're going to end up looking over our shoulder... Keep dickov, but we have to see improvements to our consistency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Should have never got rid of Gregan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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