simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yeah I liked Haining very much, Beherall was cack tho. I think too much emphasis being placed on this formation and that formation. If every man does his job and works for the team , any of the discussed formations could be effective . I'm Sure LJ knows what shape we gonna take and is signing players accordingly. Having not been to any pre-season games I will wait and see how we line-up come the REAL games. I think too many people reading too much into these PRACTICE sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I often wonder why go the expense of batting and bowling coaches, the England players seem to go worse after all the scientific analysis of their techniques. I noticed Newcastle had some kind of SatNav device attached to the back of their shirts, I assume to work out how many million miles they had run. On second thoughts LJ could attach SatNavs to the Latics strikers shirts and set them in the direction of the opposition penalty area. Heart rate monitors so the staff could assess how hard they were working (and prevent them working too hard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Beharall wasn't awful. Wasn't great, but we've had many worse centre halves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Beharall wasn't awful. Wasn't great, but we've had many worse centre halves. Correct, Beharall wasn't the worst we have had by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) Heart rate monitors so the staff could assess how hard they were working (and prevent them working too hard) I thought out of breath and sweat told you that ? Edited July 23, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Haining was terrific in that 05/07 time, if anything didn't get enough credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I thought out of breath and sweat told you that ? That could also tell you they have a cold or smoke too many fags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I think going from 4 at the back to 3 at the back takes the team as a whole to adjust, which is why it isn't used often at this level. Going from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 is much easier. But I agree with the OP that it is a formation that could suit our players. Our full backs are mobile and energetic enough to get forward although whether they are disciplined enough with the extra responsibility remains to be seen. It would allow us to make the most of players in positions that we have depth in (notably central defence and midfield). We have mobile strikers who could run the channels and it also means we won't be isolating JCH/A.N.Other up front. Finally, it gets rid of one of my bugbears from last season: wingers who don't offer enough to the team consistently! I'm glad LJ is trying different formations now and I'd rather have our money go towards someone like Llera rather than 2 wingers, especially if we have a system which accommodates him easily. As a regular starting XI this interests me: Rachubka Lockwood J Wilson (Sweeper) Llera/Kusunga B Wilson/Brown (wing-back) Jones Dieng Kelly Mills (wing-back) Philliskirk JCH Edited July 24, 2014 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) 3-5-2 believe it or not is harder for centre backs to accustom themselves too, edit: i know these are proffesionals paid money to do it but still.. take wilson lockwood and kusunga for example, two of the three will be less central then they are used to and will take them 20 minutes to settle into the game, but.. if worked on in training and used consistently it could be a potentially good formation! the wing backs aren't the problem though, most would prefer playing at wing back then full back! Edited July 25, 2014 by kieranmcandrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Beharall wasn't awful. Wasn't great, but we've had many worse centre halves. Scorer of one of the best goals in football ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 3-5-2 believe it or not is harder for centre backs to accustom themselves too, one of my worst performances/team performances was at centre back in a 3-5-2! edit: i know these are proffesionals paid money to do it but still.. take wilson lockwood and kusunga for example, two of the three will be less central then they are used to and will take them 20 minutes to settle into the game, but.. if worked on in training and used consistently it could be a potentially good formation! the wing backs aren't the problem though, most would prefer playing at wing back then full back! Wasn't it used effectively in the second half at Mansfield in the FA cup last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wasn't it used effectively in the second half at Mansfield in the FA cup last season? Until we took the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Wasn't it used effectively in the second half at Mansfield in the FA cup last season? it was, i was suprised not to see it again after that though! he comes across as a manager who likes to have two or three styles of play - hopefully he can use them effectively depending on our opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) Wasn't it used effectively in the second half at Mansfield in the FA cup last season? With which players? I bet it wasnt with 3 centre halves, never is! Edited July 24, 2014 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I recall the system being used to prolong the careers of slowing full backs in Pearce and Maldini. Pace is never everything. Edited July 24, 2014 by leeslover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 To be honest, if Kieran had a bad game whilst playing in a back three, maybe it's time to accept it won't work for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 To be honest, if Kieran had a bad game whilst playing in a back three, maybe it's time to accept it won't work for us... my point exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 To be honest, if Kieran had a bad game whilst playing in a back three, maybe it's time to accept it won't work for us...I could see you in a libero role as the accumulation of Nandos starts to show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That moment when you are sat next to United fans at work and they are discussing a 3-5-2 with wing backs. Yeah that just happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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