mikeroyboy Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Is it not just about squeezing & controlling the play with us having a stronger, probable 3 man, central midfield? That's why I will 'probably' be better leaving expert analysis to the experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepingthe Faith Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain." or is it more a result of our wingers refusal to stay wide last season that LJ is bringing the line to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Getting corners past the first man seemed to be a problem last season. We've gained a metre in that respect. We'll see how much it changes the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 We haven't signed a traditional winger have we? We had 1 player left on the books in Dayton; who it could be argued is a 'stay wide, hug the line winger' type (though he had a very average 1st season with us playing in that style IMO) He's had Forte and Winchester + Dayton doing the wide roles, and in the way it panned out, none of them were being asked to do the 'traditional' winger role. There's no point in having a wide pitch, which in turns favours that style of winger, if you don't have that type of player in your side. All it's doing is passing an advantage to the away sides who do have that type of player.... as others have said, time will tell if this benefits us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 LJ says to increase goals ....How? Not a clue.... but we'll find out soon enough..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 LJ says to increase goals ....How? The wide players will get into goalscoring positions more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 LJ says to increase goals ....How? I've already answered how I believe it can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I can see the clamour for reverting the pitch getting louder, about 10 mins in after the first home game. CAn't see how it will help, but who knows. YUou've gotta hope LJ has studied this in some depth. What is good though, is trying different things, rather than one trick pony play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain." or is it more a result of our wingers refusal to stay wide last season that LJ is bringing the line to them Brilliant. On the topic, I seem to recall that under JR we had one of the wider pitches in the league. Presumably that was partly because JR felt in Adams and Holden he had the weapons to exploit it - and he was right. As a result of growing up watching these teams I have a big love of the winger getting to the goal line and whipping crosses in. Absolutely convinced its a better place to put a cross in from, than the spot about 3 yards out from the penatly box / touch line that seems to be dominant these days. Surely its easy to clear a ball with your back to goal facing the ball coming in rather than facing your own goal where you are likely to concede a corner if you do clear it? But will trust LJ has done this for good reason and has thought it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I heard it was a Tommy Wright idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) The likes of Alan Groves and Rick Holden would have had no problems on a narrow pitch. As a matter of interest does anyone know the dimensions of the plastic pitch? Edited August 7, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy_Fent Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 We haven't signed a traditional winger have we? We had 1 player left on the books in Dayton; who it could be argued is a 'stay wide, hug the line winger' type (though he had a very average 1st season with us playing in that style IMO) He's had Forte and Winchester + Dayton doing the wide roles, and in the way it panned out, none of them were being asked to do the 'traditional' winger role. There's no point in having a wide pitch, which in turns favours that style of winger, if you don't have that type of player in your side. All it's doing is passing an advantage to the away sides who do have that type of player.... as others have said, time will tell if this benefits us In recent years we seem to have attacted either a tricky winger or a winger who can cross a ball, the last one who could consistently do both was probably Eyresey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain." That's much better than "Keep The Faith". I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I can see the clamour for reverting the pitch getting louder, about 10 mins in after the first home game. "Bloody hell groundsman!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) The Spurs manager blames the size of the pitch for their lack of success at home. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/tottenham-hotspur-vs-brighton--hove-albion-mauricio-pochettino-blames-tight-pitch-for-spurs-abject-home-form-9824556.html When Latics were generally regarded as “:censored:e” in home games, the players were forever over-hitting the ball and sending it off the pitch. This doesn’t happen now the pitch is narrower, which defies logic. Surely the reason is that the current players are more skillful in ball-control. It looks like LJ has been vindicated in narrowing the pitch. Edited October 29, 2014 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The Spurs manager blames the size of the pitch for their lack of success at home. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/tottenham-hotspur-vs-brighton--hove-albion-mauricio-pochettino-blames-tight-pitch-for-spurs-abject-home-form-9824556.html When Latics were generally regarded as :censored:e in home games, the players were forever over-hitting the ball and sending it off the pitch. This doesnt happen now the pitch is narrower, which defies logic. Surely the reason is that the current players are more skillful in ball-control. It looks like LK has been vindicated in narrowing the pitch. certainly does, but why it has is a curious one. Defies logic as you say.Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 And there's me thinking we couldn't possibly score less goals and an upturn in goals and results was going to be due to an upgrade in squad strength. If the narrowing of the pitch disadvantages some teams surely it would do the opposite for others. This thread could be running all season. Is it the pitch? Is it the players? Is it the tactics? Have we played into the hands of defensive teams? I am expecting a half decent campaign based on the assembled squad and tactics, now I have to factor in, is it due to the width of the pitch. There will be no way of telling. so far so good, but is it the pitch?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 so far so good, but is it the pitch?! so far so good, but is it the pitch?! I dont care what the feck it is but long may it continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 so far so good, but is it the pitch?! IMO, it's the squad. The improvement has been just as noticeable away from home where some of he better teams in L1 have been throwing all sizes of pitch at us. There is of course no way of being sure. But it seems as though I could be right with the thread being a runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Can you change the size of the pitch mid-season? If we managed to acquire a couple of blinding wingers would LJ want and be able to widen the pitch or do the laws of the game state that it is set for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Can you change the size of the pitch mid-season? If we managed to acquire a couple of blinding wingers would LJ want and be able to widen the pitch or do the laws of the game state that it is set for the season. No. It has to be the same for every league game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 No. It has to be the same for every league game.Do you have a link or otherwise to where that statement can be corroborated? cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Do you have a link or otherwise to where that statement can be corroborated? cheers!Trying to find it on the Football League site as we speak - it used to be there somewhere! EDIT: http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section4.aspx 13.2 Clubs must register their pitch dimensions with the Executive prior to the start of each Season. It will be misconduct on the part of a Club to alter its pitch dimensions during a Season unless with the prior written consent of the Executive, which consent will only be given in exceptional circumstances. The Executive may at any time require a Club to submit a report from a qualified independent source certifying the pitch dimensions. Edited October 30, 2014 by opinions4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Trying to find it on the Football League site as we speak - it used to be there somewhere! EDIT: http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section4.aspx 13.2 Clubs must register their pitch dimensions with the Executive prior to the start of each Season. It will be misconduct on the part of a Club to alter its pitch dimensions during a Season unless with the prior written consent of the Executive, which consent will only be given in exceptional circumstances. The Executive may at any time require a Club to submit a report from a qualified independent source certifying the pitch dimensions. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Makes sense that you can't. Some clubs would adjust it according to their team, tactics and opposition on a weekly basis. I presume its is the same for the FA Cup and FA trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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