singe Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Whether we would go down that route remains to be seen, but the door is much more open.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29376418 I think we have a very well kept pitch, but cancelleations becasue of a frozen pitch still happen. This could aid us. Of course, we can play on grass as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Any club in league one with any ambition of getting promoted is not going to do this but it does depend on the terms the championship put on it. I don't know how much a 3G pitch costs vs. how much in maintenance it saves but you would have thought it would take a couple of years to pay for itself before the club start saving money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehobbit Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I thought our pitch was some kind of bizarre hybrid. Or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) Supposing we had a plastic pitch that gave us an advantage at home. Is that such an advantage if we have a high player turnover? Edited September 26, 2014 by 24hoursfromtulsehill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Supposing we had a plastic pitch that gave us an advantage at home. Is that such an advantage if we have a high player turnover? Suppose we had a plastic pitch that gave our players an advantage, such that they won more games, thus encouraging them to stay for longer.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 3/4G pitches still get frozen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Supposing we had a plastic pitch that gave us an advantage at home. Is that such an advantage if we have a high player turnover? Maybe if we had a plastic pitch we would be better at home, hence be more successful, hence be able to offer better contracts, hence lower player turnover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 "Oldham Athletic won promotion to the top flight while using a plastic pitch in 1991" says the BBC, suggesting it gave us an advantage. Well, we had a very good away record that year, and we played really well on mud if i remember. Some managers moaned and gave themselves a psychological barrier before they arrived, others didn't. I liked the plastic pitch. It encouraged players to actually play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_b_100 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 We had had the pitch 5 seasons by then ... you would have thought if we had an advantage we would have done it in two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 "Oldham Athletic won promotion to the top flight while using a plastic pitch in 1991" says the BBC, suggesting it gave us an advantage. Well, we had a very good away record that year, and we played really well on mud if i remember. ....article is written by Mike Keegan.... so I doubt he was looking to suggest we weren't good for our promotion.... it's merely a statement of fact. As it the fact we had a plastic pitch for 5 seasons of which we played poor football on it for 2 of those 5....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Any club in league one with any ambition of getting promoted is not going to do this but it does depend on the terms the championship put on it. I don't know how much a 3G pitch costs vs. how much in maintenance it saves but you would have thought it would take a couple of years to pay for itself before the club start saving money. It seems a 3G pitch costs £500,000.00 to instal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 To be fair though if i remember correctly thats exactly the same figure the current hybrid costs. Talking about the hybrid, wasnt it only meant to last ten years? Im sure that ten years has run out now? How much longer is it good for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 ....article is written by Mike Keegan.... so I doubt he was looking to suggest we weren't good for our promotion.... it's merely a statement of fact. As it the fact we had a plastic pitch for 5 seasons of which we played poor football on it for 2 of those 5....! Apart from 1990/91 we had a piss poor away record. Big Joe geared a team around playing on the plastic. Every single player playing for us between about 1988 and 1991 knew how to control and pass a ball. We substituted brawn and muscle for great technical ability and reaped dividends. Even in that promotion season we got well and truly dicked away on a semi-regular basis. Oxford 1-5, Port Vale 0-2, Brizzle Rovers 0-2, Notts County (loads of times), West Ham 0-2. Even draws like Hull City 2-2 and Swindon 2-2 we were woeful for the majority of it and got our act together late on to rescue something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Apart from 1990/91 we had a piss poor away record. Big Joe geared a team around playing on the plastic. Every single player playing for us between about 1988 and 1991 knew how to control and pass a ball. We substituted brawn and muscle for great technical ability and reaped dividends. Even in that promotion season we got well and truly dicked away on a semi-regular basis. Oxford 1-5, Port Vale 0-2, Brizzle Rovers 0-2, Notts County (loads of times), West Ham 0-2. Even draws like Hull City 2-2 and Swindon 2-2 we were woeful for the majority of it and got our act together late on to rescue something. I think Big Joe didn't adapt to away games much as LJ doesn't adapt to home games, having said that it was a pleasure to go to BP back then as goals would flow, in the last few seasons or so the home experience has generally been dismal. Edited September 27, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 the other advantage of the plastic pitch was the revenue stream it opened up with teams able to hire it when not in use bye ourselves for matches and training can remember seeing halifax bury and dale all using the pitch when there training pitches were out of use due to the weather plus of course many local teams used it for training etc would be one way of bringing the stadium to use more the clayton arms used to do a fair amount of trade off people who had been playing on the pitch of an evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think Big Joe didn't adapt to away games much as LJ doesn't adapt to home games, having said that it was a pleasure to go to BP back then as goals would flow, in the last few seasons or so the home experience has generally been dismal. can also remember the infamous programme notes at was it portsmouth claiming we were nothing without the plastic pitch .big joes team talk done for him iirc didnt it finnish 4-0 . the likes of oxford notts and bizzle played on small tight pitches with the grass left long to negate our passing game and use of tricky ricky and neil adams on the wings iirc we always did well on large wide pitches were we had room to play football not hoof and run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCM35 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think the argument that a plastic pitch would give us a better advantage at home is a null one, it's not like astro turf anymore it's pretty much like playing on grass but there is financial befits to having one thou in terms of hiring it out and maybe even bringing Yeds back to BP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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