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If SC is on radio GMR tonight why isn't the web site telling us .

 

Latics really don't help themselves in anything with regards promoting the club or letting fans know what going on .

 

Then they moan about low attendances !!!!!!!!!

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If SC is on radio GMR tonight why isn't the web site telling us .

 

Latics really don't help themselves in anything with regards promoting the club or letting fans know what going on .

 

Then they moan about low attendances !!!!!!!!!

 

 

Maybe Web monkey hasn't got to work yet.

Maybe he is woking on a bigger announcement, like, I don't know, a new manager!

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Just maybe Simon is as heartily sick as the rest of us and has decided to put a time limit on his going. It is what the moaners deserve. Simon has kept this club going and the little :censored: was the last throw of the dice. His signing was a master stroke but behind that glossy exterior it was all for one and one for one.

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Just maybe Simon is as heartily sick as the rest of us and has decided to put a time limit on his going. It is what the moaners deserve. Simon has kept this club going and the little :censored: was the last throw of the dice. His signing was a master stroke but behind that glossy exterior it was all for one and one for one.

 

On the other hand - the fact he found a half decent manager at last who got us to a more respectable position in the league, signed better players on longer term deals & made us a few quid might have rekindled his enthusiasm a little bit......

He knows he CAN appoint a manager who can make a difference so might be optimistic about doing it again.

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There really is no difference! We as fans are, in a way, the shareholders, shares paid for in full year after year with our financial contributions to the institution!

Where did I ever say that I expected him to act for my benefit?

He came here confident in his and 2 other's ability to turn us into a profitable enterprise and in that respect he has failed miserably!

‘There really is no difference’? That just sums up how far away you are from understanding the core issue. A shareholder is part owner of a company – they share the profits and the losses. They have their say in the decisions the board of directors take and indeed who the directors are. They are also in danger of losing all their investment.

 

In virtually all cases a football fan is a customer of a business. You are not buying shares in your chosen club, you are buying admission to a football match. And ‘fans’ damn well please themselves whether they go to a match or not. At ZERO financial risk!

The 3 A’s rescued us from admin with a group of players on unaffordable contracts.

 

With good intensions they planned to redevelop the ground financed by building houses on the clubs land. Quite reasonable IMO!

 

There original plan (close to the top of the housing boom) was for cira 600 units, far too ambitious from a planning point of view IMO. It not unsurprisingly failed planning.

 

The severe and long lasting housing and financial crash followed but not the desire to create something better for the club. The next disaster to befall Corney was the Failsworth debacle where the council assured the club that the site could be made available but instead turned into a legal quagmire and failure.

 

You say he has failed miserably from your ‘no risk’ comfy chair. I say he has failed ‘with credit’ in a very difficult period for many business’s. Knocking down the Ford Stand was a major ‘unforced’ error IMO and I seem to remember Corney admitting that. But that’s what happens when you are making ALL the decisions. Each of us can identify with that in our own lives – or would you disagree?

 

Do you ever look across at the new stand and wonder ‘whos pocket has the finance come out of’?

 

Do you ever look at L2, The Conference and beyond and think ‘it could be much worse’ when you see the array of former peers, some of the almost sunk without trace? I don’t think you do.

 

You point at Corney and Co’s failures without making any attempt to be constructive in how it should have been done and how it should have been financed or who he should have signed.

 

At the moment he is building a new stand on 4,000 gates. He is doing it to aid extricating himself from a nightmare and do the honourable thing for the fans. IMO

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There really is no difference? That just sums up how far away you are from understanding the core issue. A shareholder is part owner of a company they share the profits and the losses. They have their say in the decisions the board of directors take and indeed who the directors are. They are also in danger of losing all their investment.

 

In virtually all cases a football fan is a customer of a business. You are not buying shares in your chosen club, you are buying admission to a football match. And fans damn well please themselves whether they go to a match or not. At ZERO financial risk!

The 3 As rescued us from admin with a group of players on unaffordable contracts.

 

With good intensions they planned to redevelop the ground financed by building houses on the clubs land. Quite reasonable IMO!

 

There original plan (close to the top of the housing boom) was for cira 600 units, far too ambitious from a planning point of view IMO. It not unsurprisingly failed planning.

 

The severe and long lasting housing and financial crash followed but not the desire to create something better for the club. The next disaster to befall Corney was the Failsworth debacle where the council assured the club that the site could be made available but instead turned into a legal quagmire and failure.

 

You say he has failed miserably from your no risk comfy chair. I say he has failed with credit in a very difficult period for many businesss. Knocking down the Ford Stand was a major unforced error IMO and I seem to remember Corney admitting that. But thats what happens when you are making ALL the decisions. Each of us can identify with that in our own lives or would you disagree?

 

Do you ever look across at the new stand and wonder whos pocket has the finance come out of?

 

Do you ever look at L2, The Conference and beyond and think it could be much worse when you see the array of former peers, some of the almost sunk without trace? I dont think you do.

 

You point at Corney and Cos failures without making any attempt to be constructive in how it should have been done and how it should have been financed or who he should have signed.

 

At the moment he is building a new stand on 4,000 gates. He is doing it to aid extricating himself from a nightmare and do the honourable thing for the fans. IMO

I do indeed sometimes look at the stand and ask who is paying for it and why is it taking so long...

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There really is no difference? That just sums up how far away you are from understanding the core issue. A shareholder is part owner of a company they share the profits and the losses. They have their say in the decisions the board of directors take and indeed who the directors are. They are also in danger of losing all their investment.

 

In virtually all cases a football fan is a customer of a business. You are not buying shares in your chosen club, you are buying admission to a football match. And fans damn well please themselves whether they go to a match or not. At ZERO financial risk!

The 3 As rescued us from admin with a group of players on unaffordable contracts.

 

With good intensions they planned to redevelop the ground financed by building houses on the clubs land. Quite reasonable IMO!

 

There original plan (close to the top of the housing boom) was for cira 600 units, far too ambitious from a planning point of view IMO. It not unsurprisingly failed planning.

 

The severe and long lasting housing and financial crash followed but not the desire to create something better for the club. The next disaster to befall Corney was the Failsworth debacle where the council assured the club that the site could be made available but instead turned into a legal quagmire and failure.

 

You say he has failed miserably from your no risk comfy chair. I say he has failed with credit in a very difficult period for many businesss. Knocking down the Ford Stand was a major unforced error IMO and I seem to remember Corney admitting that. But thats what happens when you are making ALL the decisions. Each of us can identify with that in our own lives or would you disagree?

 

Do you ever look across at the new stand and wonder whos pocket has the finance come out of?

 

Do you ever look at L2, The Conference and beyond and think it could be much worse when you see the array of former peers, some of the almost sunk without trace? I dont think you do.

 

You point at Corney and Cos failures without making any attempt to be constructive in how it should have been done and how it should have been financed or who he should have signed.

 

At the moment he is building a new stand on 4,000 gates. He is doing it to aid extricating himself from a nightmare and do the honourable thing for the fans. IMO

One of the best posts on OWTB for some time

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I do indeed sometimes look at the stand and ask who is paying for it and why is it taking so long...

The answers to which are very obvious, well documented and well discussed.

 

I suppose there always has to be someone to blame...

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Off the top oif my head, and I donlt have a photgraphic memory:

Paid for by SC, selling some players, and a bit of cup money and probably Johnson compo.... Clearly we are not going to know exactly, and I bet the the other two A's are also involved bhind the scenes.

We got a good deal from Paul Whitehead, so it was probably partly on pay as you go rather than as a job lot period of time

There was a delay when the cladding firm were binned.

The weather also did not help, and delayed somewhat.

We did not pay a premium for having blokes sat around, and was carefully managed by Paul Whitehead, and who managed as the designs were changed

There were changes to the design spec with first Broady and then SCIG gave input.

I am sure there were a few cock ups along the way too, as tis the way with any project.

So it might have take longer, but it would not have cost as much.

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