Rivals

[leeslover]

I think there are only 4 or 5 clubs in England who haven't done something to piss me off, resulting in a disliking, over the years.

I'm much the same. A few years ago some people in work asked me if I liked any other teams. We were a long way down the list before I found someone I didn't have something against

[GlossopLatic]

Give it five years and it will be FCUM

They definitely have the potential, local their is the Man U connection, they have a deluded sense of their own importance. Part of me still believes they will plateau at a certain level like Afc Wimbledon but will see.

[Dave_Og]

They definitely have the potential, local their is the Man U connection, they have a deluded sense of their own importance. Part of me still believes they will plateau at a certain level like Afc Wimbledon but will see.

 

They may well plateau like Wimbledon but there's not much to say we won't be at their level at some stage

[IceStationLatic]

There was a London-based Grimsby fan who adopted AFC Wimbledon as his second team when they formed because "we'll never play each other". Grimsby were Championship level at the time.....!

 

Also it was only 2009 I think where Bournemouth had to beat Grimsby to avoid relegation into non-league. Now they're on the verge of getting into the Premier League!

[opinions4u]

Didn't the House of Bradford side with the Red Rose county?

[lankylad]

Wanky wanderers all day long

[Tommy_Fent]

You get too much of this "we're too big to care about them (but secretly we do)" crap these days.

 

I'd say Oldham vs Rochdale is a rivalry between two towns more than two Football clubs but that's how the biggest rivalries in the game have historically come about.

Edited March 22, 2015 by Tommy_Fent

[BLUMAX]

They definitely have the potential, local their is the Man U connection, they have a deluded sense of their own importance. Part of me still believes they will plateau at a certain level like Afc Wimbledon but will see.

 

I seriously dislike FCUM fans, they went from supporting a side who are used to being big fish in a little pond to another side who are now, yes,youve got it!

[Monty Burns]

 

They may well plateau like Wimbledon but there's not much to say we won't be at their level at some stage

Or plateu in league one with 3000 fans. Like, erm, us and rochdale.

[Dave_Og]

 

I seriously dislike FCUM fans, they went from supporting a side who are used to being big fish in a little pond to another side who are now, yes,youve got it!

 

What do you want them to do? Just support someone rubbish for the sake of it?

[leeslover]

 

What do you want them to do? Just support someone rubbish for the sake of it?

They should really be going to Dulwich Hamlet.

[GlossopLatic]

 

What do you want them to do? Just support someone rubbish for the sake of it?

If people are fed up with footballs commercialisation at the top then their are lots of other amateur semi pro clubs already in existence that would welcome those fans in with open arms.

 

Creating a new club potentially sets a worrying precedent as other disenchanted pl fans create new clubs that compete with the existing none league clubs, before you know it you could have 2,3,4,5 versions of Man U Chelsea Liverpool arsenal Man city feeding into those clubs. How do those semi pro clubs already in existence compete with that, and eventually it infiltrates the football league and clubs like ours become more marginalised.

Edited March 23, 2015 by GlossopLatic

[HarryBosch]

 

I seriously dislike FCUM fans, they went from supporting a side who are used to being big fish in a little pond to another side who are now, yes,youve got it!

 

"FC" please, just FC.

[Pine Villains]

i mightbe a bit thick here....at least i'm amongst equals....but wouldnt impressing the will of an ideal (for instance football takeovers, sell outs and commercialisation) held by like minded fans on to a another semi pro club be contradictory?.......if youre fed up do something about it......could learn a thing or two from an attitude like that.....i watched mossley the other week and it was :censored:en gash so if that whats semipro football is like theyre welcome to all of it

[GlossopLatic]

i mightbe a bit thick here....at least i'm amongst equals....but wouldnt impressing the will of an ideal (for instance football takeovers, sell outs and commercialisation) held by like minded fans on to a another semi pro club be contradictory?.......if youre fed up do something about it......could learn a thing or two from an attitude like that.....i watched mossley the other week and it was :censored:en gash so if that whats semipro football is like theyre welcome to all of it

The creation of FC United has hardly done anything to stop footballs commercialisation in the last 10 years has it?

 

All it's done is create another non league football club with slightly more fans than the others.

[Matt]

If people are fed up with footballs commercialisation at the top then their are lots of other amateur semi pro clubs already in existence that would welcome those fans in with open arms.

 

Creating a new club potentially sets a worrying precedent as other disenchanted pl fans create new clubs that compete with the existing none league clubs, before you know it you could have 2,3,4,5 versions of Man U Chelsea Liverpool arsenal Man city feeding into those clubs. How do those semi pro clubs already in existence compete with that, and eventually it infiltrates the football league and clubs like ours become more marginalised.

 

That won't work, and as a Glossop supporter you'll probably know why. The FCUM model is being looked at by a number of clubs, more recently Torquay United who were very interested in full fan ownership - teams from Germany have also followed suit. I'd be more worried about Fylde, Halifax, Salford, North Ferriby and so on, I could see Fylde being above Oldham sooner than any of them.

 

How do they compete with that? With what? 16 or so footballers on part-time contracts? Ilkeston in the same division are all on full time contracts - Chorley the same last year. Ashton United, Curzon and Workington have great sides and have played just as well - it is competitive, to be fair it's been a really interesting season with some cracking fixtures.

[leeslover]

Being part time doesn't mean they aren't better players on bigger money though.

 

I really don't see fan ownership as a universal panacea - I reckon us lot on here could :censored: a club up between breakfast if we set our minds to it. Wimbledon, Mini-United and Tuscan Hamlet are have unusual circumstances that see them get far higher support than would happen at most clubs, the system works while they are on the up.

[opinions4u]

There is, of course, a niche to carve out for Latics should the will exist.

 

Genuine fan involvement in an area where two of the world's biggest "clubs" seek to exploit the football supporter.

 

Family friendly activity throughout the club looking to build a cradle to the grave love of the club.

 

We got close with a fan on the board ....

[GlossopLatic]

 

That won't work, and as a Glossop supporter you'll probably know why. The FCUM model is being looked at by a number of clubs, more recently Torquay United who were very interested in full fan ownership - teams from Germany have also followed suit. I'd be more worried about Fylde, Halifax, Salford, North Ferriby and so on, I could see Fylde being above Oldham sooner than any of them.

 

How do they compete with that? With what? 16 or so footballers on part-time contracts? Ilkeston in the same division are all on full time contracts - Chorley the same last year. Ashton United, Curzon and Workington have great sides and have played just as well - it is competitive, to be fair it's been a really interesting season with some cracking fixtures.

I actually don't support Glossop per se although I might venture over on Saturday. Interms of how competitive it is well you will know more about that than me but that wasn't the point I was getting at.

 

The point I was making is that there is now another man united in the footballing pyramid If you get the top clubs having an Afc offspring in the lower reaches it can potentially marginalise the other clubs already in existence. Before you know it the top clubs have several satellite clubs spread across football. Personally I don't believe that's a good thing.

Edited March 23, 2015 by GlossopLatic

[Matt]

I actually don't support Glossop per se although I might venture over on Saturday. Interms of how competitive it is well you will know more about that than me but that wasn't the point I was getting at.

 

The point I was making is that there is now another man united in the footballing pyramid If you get the top clubs having an Afc offspring in the lower reaches it can potentially marginalise the other clubs already in existence. Before you know it the top clubs have several satellite clubs spread across football. Personally I don't believe that's a good thing.

 

I wouldn't worry about AFC offspring, Blackpool Mechanics went tangerine changed their name to AFC Blackpool and at best could draw 500 with the unrest at Bloomfield - to be honest I've heard 'I'm going to Fylde' more than AFC on the non-league forums. AFC Blackburn failed, AFC Liverpool struggle...

 

If you want to list things that are not good for football start at The Premiership, and Sky.

[NewBlue]

Given Fulham and Brentford don't like each other I can't see Tarky switching between clubs. With stat man in charge anything could happen though I suppose

[Zorrro]

This is fast becoming my favourite OWTB 'meme'. Good work, chaps.

[Dave_Og]

Given Fulham and Brentford don't like each other I can't see Tarky switching between clubs. With stat man in charge anything could happen though I suppose

 

 

"Rivalry" in football just gets more bizarre. Do Fulham & Brentford really "not get on?" They can't have much history. Meanwhile the ludicrous nonsense on the south coast means that Emirates can't paint the tower they have sponsored in their corporate colours for fear of offending Portsmouth supporters despite the fact that said tower has nothing whatsoever to do with the game which is, just in case it is forgotten is,....just a game.

[NewBlue]

 

 

"Rivalry" in football just gets more bizarre. Do Fulham & Brentford really "not get on?" They can't have much history.

They've not faced one another for a while but can't really knock Fulham and Brentford's rivalry. Add in QPR and it's probably comparable to Dale, Rochdale and Oldham's triangular rivalry but a better standard and more intense.

[Monty Burns]

 

 

"Rivalry" in football just gets more bizarre. Do Fulham & Brentford really "not get on?" They can't have much history. Meanwhile the ludicrous nonsense on the south coast means that Emirates can't paint the tower they have sponsored in their corporate colours for fear of offending Portsmouth supporters despite the fact that said tower has nothing whatsoever to do with the game which is, just in case it is forgotten is,....just a game.

Im quite jealous of the portsmouth situation, wish we had passion like that.