Adelatics Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Might be good to see him as an assistant to a dowie type with a view to taking over longer term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Whatever happens, when TP returns to his youth team can he spend a day a week working with the first team strikers. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetramfixer Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Might be good to see him as an assistant to a dowie type with a view to taking over longer term? Or maybe the opposite way? Holden in charge with Philiskirk helping along as his assistant whilst still doing the his coaching roles ?? Would the logistics work out though is the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Would nobody else be uncomfortable that a man who had never even had a successful interview for a manager's job took our first season in the Championship for 20 years? How could you justify a manager getting a job after about 15 games in charge? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Might be good to see him as an assistant to a dowie type with a view to taking over longer term? That's the way I see it too....Dowie gets back into management and Holden learns his trade as coach ready to step in when Dowie's contract is up and we are in the championship....perfick!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Would nobody else be uncomfortable that a man who had never even had a successful interview for a manager's job took our first season in the Championship for 20 years? How could you justify a manager getting a job after about 15 games in charge? I don't get it. Holden gets Oldham promoted for the first time in nearly 30 years.... "Yeah but he didn't pass an interview doe!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 How could you justify a manager getting a job after about 15 games in charge? I don't get it. With that logic, we'd never have seen Dowie or that midget :censored: appointed- they had no games in charge before being appointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forte_Baby Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 With that logic, we'd never have seen Dowie or that midget :censored: appointed- they had no games in charge before being appointed. When Dowie was Wadsworth number 2 you could see on the touchlines it was him doing most the coaching also had some brief experince as caretaker manager at QPR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I think 15 games, and a few months of doing the job, is more important than an interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think 15 games, and a few months of doing the job, is more important than an interview. I would always value somebody who has proved they could do a job well over somebody who could blag an interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think he's got to be close to keeping the job now. If we can remain unbeaten or only lose one of these last six I think he should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I liked his interview post-match yesterday. But I am concerned about the capitulation at Bradford just a few days ago. And I would assume that if he is appointed TP won't be alongside him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kit Symons at Fulham is perfect example of why a caretaker shouldn't get the job under normal circumstances. How anybody can think Holden deserves it over a proper manager with genuine credentials I do not know. Our form has been average at best and we've been playing pretty poor football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Kit Symons at Fulham is perfect example of why a caretaker shouldn't get the job under normal circumstances. How anybody can think Holden deserves it over a proper manager with genuine credentials I do not know. Our form has been average at best and we've been playing pretty poor football. Who is out there with credentials who will be happy to work with our budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcforever Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 For me with our budget it's going to be another 1st time manager with good contacts, who's got their coaching badges. Not saying Dean Holden is the man but think under the circumstances ie massive injury list he's done alright. Liked the positive approach yesterday not giving the opposition too much respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Who is out there with credentials who will be happy to work with our budget? Mark Yates has decent credentials. Gary Johnson has just gone to the bottom team in the football league. Neil Redfearn, perhaps. Not saying I want him, but Aidy Boothroyd has done some decent things. Darren Ferguson. Sean O'Driscoll. Sheridan may find himself out of a job come summer if Plymouth don't get play offs. www.thesackrace.com/job-centre - plenty about. What does 10 games at the end of the season say about any manager? I'm not saying Holden won't or wouldn't be a good manager, I'm saying you simply cannot make a judgement of a manager from the time he's had, and it doesn't warrant automatic promotion to the top job. He should face the same process any other applicant faces. Edited April 4, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Id give Dean the job if TP is his assistant.Looklng at the others then better the devil you know.They know the club and fans and what we are about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Can we not just give the job to TP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Can we not just give the job to TP?We would have done by now had TP ever wanted it he doesn't and never has. Holden strikes me as a coach and not a manager. I reckon he likes getting out on the training pitch with the players helping them on their game. Not the guy recruiting players. Having to drop or discipline players and coming up with a strategy to beat teams and generally being the guy who has to make the ruthless decisions. TP is a coach rather than manager, I think Holden is too. Edited April 4, 2015 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamb Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 when holden was appointed I wished him well because as a former player and now coach I want him to succeed for my club , but after the first few interviews I feared he was hopelessly out of his depth . HOWEVER since then he has identified what was needed in the face of that horrendous injury list and brought in the right types of player to plug the gaps . Sadler, Gerrard and the lad from Bolton have done quite well . also Holden has made brave substitute decisions and been brave enough to play the young keeper and leave him in which is a good move for the club in the long term. for these reasons Dean Holden has won me over as a short term manager but I would still have reservations about appointing him full time manager . I hope he continues to do well and we pick up more points to end of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Not saying I want him, but Aidy Boothroyd has done some decent things. Sean O'Driscoll. . Aidy Boothroyd now manages England under 20's and Sean O'Driscoll England under 19's Edited April 6, 2015 by stevesidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Holden won't help his case if defeated by the likes of Crawley, who have conceded 66 goals this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Aidy Boothroyd now manages England under 20's and Sean O'Driscoll England under 19's Brilliant. O'Driscoll spends a year teaching the players to win by passing, then Boothroyd tells them to throw it all out the window and hoof it. Got to love the England development pathway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 when holden was appointed I wished him well because as a former player and now coach I want him to succeed for my club , but after the first few interviews I feared he was hopelessly out of his depth . HOWEVER since then he has identified what was needed in the face of that horrendous injury list and brought in the right types of player to plug the gaps . Sadler, Gerrard and the lad from Bolton have done quite well . also Holden has made brave substitute decisions and been brave enough to play the young keeper and leave him in which is a good move for the club in the long term. for these reasons Dean Holden has won me over as a short term manager but I would still have reservations about appointing him full time manager . I hope he continues to do well and we pick up more points to end of season The players he has brought in were probably on a list made by LJ (no way of knowing that) and DH has also scouted them. I don't think he has the contacts in the game that other managers who have applied have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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