ChaddySmoker Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Realistically? Wilson, Jones, Poleon and Forte have one year left on their contract. Jones & Wilson probably worth most, maybe 250-300k? Mills, Kelly and Winch have 2, so we have a bit more leeway. Nobody's worth a million though. 500k for Kelly, who's probably our most saleable asset. Although there should be a 100k Barnsley premium per player. I dont care how long Jones has on his contract, he is worth somewhere towards half a million-to us anyway! Double it for Barnsley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I think Barnsley signing Kelly is pretty much nailed on. I'd be surprised if he'd have to offer much more than £250k plus add ons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 No way will Winchester leave it's quite a coincidence that he signed a contract straight after Johnson had left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Right so let's have a bit of fun! How much realistically would you let our prized assets be sold for at a minimum? For me I'd say:- Kelly - £1m Mills - £800k Jones - £750k Winiesta - £2.5m Forte - £100k J. Wilson - £750k The rest I'd probably let go on frees apart from maybe Poleon as I'd want to either recoup most of what we paid for him or try and let him develop. Nurse, nurse...bring me the surgeon who specialises in split sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Some players may be wary of LJ now , promised them the dream of being part of the team he was building at BP etc etc when getting them to sign and then packs his bags and leaves. Will do the same at Barnsley IF a bigger club comes in. As will they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 In all seriousness, I would bite their hands off if they were to offer Mvoto for Elokobi... Yep, same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Peterborough sold Asombalonga for £8m. Just to throw it out there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 No way will Winchester leave it's quite a coincidence that he signed a contract straight after Johnson had left. Bolton are keen on Winny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Peterborough sold Asombalonga for £8m. Just to throw it out there.... IT was undisclosed! It was reported to be £5 with add ons taking it to £8m max. He is a stiker, and had got 23 goals in 43 matches We have no one within a country mile of that. He's a 1 in 2. Edited April 23, 2015 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Bolton are keen on Winny Keen enough to offer enough money for us to be able to refuse all other offers-I very much doubt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0603 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Obviously you need to catch up. Players pick up injuries at bigger clubs, lose their way a little bit, sign for a smaller club, form picks up, they move on back to higher level. That's generally how our transfer policy works. So basically the one thing they all have in common (bar Winchester, who won't start the season with us next season) is that they're soft. The thing Kelly and Mills have in common is that they don't fancy it when the going gets tough - they're mentally weak footballers and that's the reason they won't play at a higher level - that, coupled with the fact that they aren't technically good enough (If they were they would have been able to drag this team into the play-offs). What people seem to forget is that the standard of League 1 this year is atrocious. If these players were really that good and could comfortably play at a higher level we'd have been with the top 5 who have run away with it. Judgment of them is being clouded and elevated (as it was with Johnson) by how poor the division actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 In all seriousness, I would bite their hands off if they were to offer Mvoto for Elokobi... No way Mvoto should ever play for us again, the man is a liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Despite what LJ said earlier in the season, there's no way we'll get anywhere near a million for Kelly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So basically the one thing they all have in common (bar Winchester, who won't start the season with us next season) is that they're soft. Same bull was spouted about Winchester leaving in January since which he has signed a long term deal. some people really do overrate or underrate our players. Right so let's have a bit of fun! How much realistically would you let our prized assets be sold for at a minimum? For me I'd say:- Kelly - £1m Mills - £800k Jones - £750k Winiesta - £2.5m Forte - £100k J. Wilson - £750k The rest I'd probably let go on frees apart from maybe Poleon as I'd want to either recoup most of what we paid for him or try and let him develop. Lets say Kelly has played 40 games.....for 20 games many wanted him dropped and said was want good enough for Oldham. 20 games later his value has increased by a million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Whiniest would have add ons just for playing the full 90 minutes! £250k max for him. If you sold the entire squad you wouldn't get much more than 2 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Thought they were all supposed to be moving over before the loan window closed? Not hard to imagine Kelly and maybe Forte signing for them but they are hardly irreplaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityGrave Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Jones would be the biggest loss out of the current lot . I imagine LJ will target him first . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0603 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Same bull was spouted about Winchester leaving in January since which he has signed a long term deal. some people really do overrate or underrate our players. Yeah but the difference is now that they have 3 months to negotiate a proper price rather than rush one through in a month. International footballer who plays every week, is a reasonable driving force in the middle and has age on his side. Somebodies going to take a punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Nothing worse in football than a manager pillaging his old club. Can certainly see Kelly leaving for them if they can put the money down. Values would be, based on age, contract and ability, in my opinion (not necessarily what I'd sell them for): Jones £250k Kelly £400k Winchester £300k J Wilson £200k Mills £250k Forte £200k Edited April 23, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Nothing worse in football than a manager pillaging his old club. Can certainly see Kelly leaving for them if they can put the money down. Values would be, based on age, contract and ability, in my opinion (not necessarily what I'd sell them for): Jones £250k Kelly £400k Winchester £300k J Wilson £200k Mills £250k Forte £200k The usual undisclosed fee of £350,000 for each of them will give the new manager something substantial to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) Yeah but the difference is now that they have 3 months to negotiate a proper price rather than rush one through in a month. International footballer who plays every week, is a reasonable driving force in the middle and has age on his side. Somebodies going to take a punt. Don't kid your self that agents and negotiations only take place in January. If somebody wanted him they would have took him at a cut price with a contract that was due to end. He also has fitness issues which are improving but just because LJ is a :censored: why didnt people believe him when he said the same. Winchester has a lot to prove yet. He will be here next season just like I said he would be here in Jan. I glad he will be but he needs to play one full season, be the driving force, keep improving and show his fitness is capable of stepping up a level Edited April 23, 2015 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The usual undisclosed fee of £350,000 for each of them will give the new manager something substantial to spend. No it won't. 99% of it will be used to cover 'losses'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'd have thought Wilson has much the same air as he did when Johnson knew him at Bristol. Anyway, none of them will go, he'd lost the dress room when he left. That was careless. Luck we found it on Furtherwood Road. We couldn't afford another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Nothing worse in football than a manager pillaging his old club. Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0603 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't kid your self that agents and negotiations only take place in January. If somebody wanted him they would have took him at a cut price with a contract that was due to end. He also has fitness issues which are improving but just because LJ is a :censored: why didnt people believe him when he said the same. Winchester has a lot to prove yet. He will be here next season just like I said he would be here in Jan. I glad he will be but he needs to play one full season, be the driving force, keep improving and show his fitness is capable of stepping up a level You're the one who brought up January - I'm just saying that someone will be willing to give us something for him. And don't you kid yourself that if a Championship club comes in that Winchester will turn around and say "no, it's alright I'll continue at Latics for now, thanks" Also, he will have played one full season once this one ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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