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Second baby on the way, the need to buy a bigger place, the shocking football on display, David Dunn thinking he's the best manager ever in his interviews, Kelly being sold down the river deservedly or not, all reasons for me to not renew my ST next year. Yet I will do and I'll have to suffer not only league 2 football, probably and more shocking football, but my missus moaning that I spend a fortune to suffer it and come home in a bad mood every weekend

With 2 babies you should take every excuse to get out of whichever house you are living in

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For young fans who haven't endured the 20 years in the league, I think it's more that in the last 5 or so there has genuinely been no more than a couple of significant matches near the top end of the league.

 

Except for a few relegation scraps, there's been no real defining game in the league and the atmosphere has suffered. Also, there have been very few cracking away games. Home atmosphere and big away games are the highlights to most young fans and it's been non-existent. In the long run it will be very damaging to the fan base. That's why I think, although the league itself may have killed off some fans, for younger supporters it's purely the dormancy of our existence in the league which is worst.

 

Envious of days like the Scunthorpe away you see highlights of every so often.

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It's about as good as I can remember, now i'm living with an 8 hour time difference I wake on a Sat at half time (no change there), then it's done by the time I've had breakfast and i'm free to enjoy my Saturday, the midweek games often completely pass me by until I see the result somewhere.

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I'd say its something like on a par with the Penney era, (which was absolutely dire).

It feels exactly the same now, nothing to feel encouraged about.

I attended my first game in 1973 as a 9 years old, I've been going ever since, so have witnessed some great times watching the club.

Those great times have never felt more distant than they do now.

I seriously can't think of anything encouraging to say about what we are witnessing on the pitch at present.

The new stand is great but we must address the incredible apathy we are seeing on the pitch.

We will continue to lose fans if we don't, we are already down to just the blind faithful.

I truly hope we can stay up, but I am more than a little worried that we wont.

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This is the worst for me. Haven't made the effort to travel to a game in ages. This is partly down to having other commitments, but it's also that I can't help thinking what a long way and what a lot of money it is for, in all likelihood, another dreadfully dull Latics performance.

 

When chatting about football with mates and colleagues, they'll ask "So who have Oldham got on Saturday then?" and half the time I can't answer.

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There have been many many years worse than this. We are not even in a crisis ffs. The reality is, is that we are a third division side. If we get promoted, we will be a second division side. Alternatively, relegation means we are a fourth division side. The club have done it all before, I know, I was there.

Back on topic, the day Simon Stainrod went to QPR was one of my darkest hours. That dick head Royle had no idea and to top it all he bought Johnny frikken nobody from City. I was ropeable and we were down.

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This is the worst for me. Haven't made the effort to travel to a game in ages. This is partly down to having other commitments, but it's also that I can't help thinking what a long way and what a lot of money it is for, in all likelihood, another dreadfully dull Latics performance.

 

When chatting about football with mates and colleagues, they'll ask "So who have Oldham got on Saturday then?" and half the time I can't answer.

 

This is similar to where I'm at. I'm in my third year of uni and I've always co-ordinated my visits home with a Latics home game over the past 2 years. This year, I've actually been looking for when we're playing away before I book a train back.

 

I think for me, I've always been hopeful that once we find the right manager and give him time, we'll have a good chance of getting promoted, or at least challenging. This year has finally made me realise how far away that is. I used to look at teams who changed their managers all the time and be glad that Latics tended to stick by their manager, but 4 managers in a year and god knows how many loanees is demoralising. The Rochdale game was my first game in about a month, and there were 6 new players in the squad that I'd not seen. I'm definitely losing interest.

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For me it's not necessarily about what level the club plays at or what the attendance is, it's the crap style of football that's now served up that's making this a low point. And to be fair, it's not just something that's going on at Latics, it's happening throughout the lower leagues.

 

It started in the Premier League probably 10 years ago where the emphasis shifted from trying to win the match, to trying not to lose. I suppose it can be argued it's quite understandable as if managers lose 5 games on the trot (LJ aside!) they get sacked! These boring negative tactics have spoiled the game and killed the atmosphere as there is no excitement any more, Interestingly though, there has been a definite shift in this policy in the PL, I actually find these games entertaining now, generally speaking you see games with open attacking football that are end-to-end.

 

I know I'm going to get slagged off here, but that was the beauty of Big Joe's reign, even when we lost it would be 3-2 and you felt like you seen a game and at the very least you'd seen a couple of goals. Of course it helped that for a period, we actually won more than we lost.

 

We are currently drawing and losing games playing with the boring style, let's try going a bit gung-ho and see what happens, it will certainly be better to watch!

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Salford's manager was on Talk Sport earlier and he said Neville and his mates have specifically told him they want the team to play attacking football.

 

Surely Corney could make it part of the managers remit to do the same....?

 

If only as a financial decision.. More people would pay to watch if they knew they were going to see a side having a proper go at scoring goals and winning games...

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Salford's manager was on Talk Sport earlier and he said Neville and his mates have specifically told him they want the team to play attacking football.

 

Surely Corney could make it part of the managers remit to do the same....?

 

If only as a financial decision.. More people would pay to watch if they knew they were going to see a side having a proper go at scoring goals and winning games...

On the TV programme, the manager went mental in changing rooms at half time about the tippy tappy sideways and backwards passing. Our players probably get praised for it

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On the TV programme, the manager went mental in changing rooms at half time about the tippy tappy sideways and backwards passing. Our players probably get praised for it

That program is so far divorced from professional management it is unreal.

 

Salford can get rid of players at the drop of a hat and bring new players in. The player turnover they were talking about on that show was even worse than ours.

 

The fact is, at league one level, you simply can't get rid of five players in a week and then another two the following week. Managers in professional leagues live and die by their decisions to bring players in months before, those guys will blow a gasket, sack 'em, and bring a new player.

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The worst time for me was the treatment of Richard Butcher at Barnsley, that was when I knew the game and club had changed for the worst. Pretty much everything has been toxic since then. Every defeat has seen more woe than the end of the world, player sales have resulted in mass suicides, managers have been given little or no chance for some and we've seen more building experts than the whole of Grand Designs and Homes under the hammer put together.

 

Latics is something I do for fun, it hasn't been fun for a while. The stuff on the pitch is no better or worse than it has been for years, it is the reaction to every little thing that is pissing me off. Young players making the step up from the youth setup being barracked for not being Messi, Managers being derided for not signing Ronaldo and everything at board level seen as a way of defrauding the pockets of the fans.

 

These days I turn up, have a laugh, bit of a sing and hopefully cheer some goals, by the time I'm back on Broadway its all over and I get on with my Saturday. Dunn is trying with the squad he didn't assemble and learning as he goes, he was never going to be a ready made manager with firmly established and rehearsed routines, he needs backing and time but I don't think he'll get them.

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The worst time for me was the treatment of Richard Butcher at Barnsley, that was when I knew the game and club had changed for the worst. Pretty much everything has been toxic since then. Every defeat has seen more woe than the end of the world, player sales have resulted in mass suicides, managers have been given little or no chance for some and we've seen more building experts than the whole of Grand Designs and Homes under the hammer put together.

 

Latics is something I do for fun, it hasn't been fun for a while. The stuff on the pitch is no better or worse than it has been for years, it is the reaction to every little thing that is pissing me off. Young players making the step up from the youth setup being barracked for not being Messi, Managers being derided for not signing Ronaldo and everything at board level seen as a way of defrauding the pockets of the fans.

 

These days I turn up, have a laugh, bit of a sing and hopefully cheer some goals, by the time I'm back on Broadway its all over and I get on with my Saturday. Dunn is trying with the squad he didn't assemble and learning as he goes, he was never going to be a ready made manager with firmly established and rehearsed routines, he needs backing and time but I don't think he'll get them.

Funnily enough, most of these comments coincide with the advent of social media. Coincidence?

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No 1. The racist abuse of Wayne Andrews at Colchester. Ashamed to be sharning the terrace.

No 2. The close to extinction post Moore's departure

No 3. Personal abuse on messageboards when trying (ineffectively to be honest) to do something positive

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That program is so far divorced from professional management it is unreal.

 

Salford can get rid of players at the drop of a hat and bring new players in. The player turnover they were talking about on that show was even worse than ours.

 

The fact is, at league one level, you simply can't get rid of five players in a week and then another two the following week. Managers in professional leagues live and die by their decisions to bring players in months before, those guys will blow a gasket, sack 'em, and bring a new player.

I get what you're saying, But we can surely coach the players we have to be more attacking?

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Salford's manager was on Talk Sport earlier and he said Neville and his mates have specifically told him they want the team to play attacking football.

 

Surely Corney could make it part of the managers remit to do the same....?

 

If only as a financial decision.. More people would pay to watch if they knew they were going to see a side having a proper go at scoring goals and winning games...

Managers are frightened of losing their jobs if the team concedes goals so take a negative approach, its this fear factor which translates to the

players that's a big problem in the game today.

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David Dunn thinking he's the best manager ever in his interviews

 

Where do you get this from? Latest post match interview following Mansfield game:

 

Oldham Athletic manager David Dunn told BBC Radio Manchester:

 

"As you saw with Salford and Notts County, there are many banana skins out there. We made sure we were solid and didn't cave in. The commitment and enthusiasm that the lads played with out of possession was good. In possession we need to do a lot better than that.

"A clean sheet is always good, you can build a lot on clean sheets, that's where the wins come from. I'm not going to lie and say I was really pleased with anything. Some of the lads weren't on song today. We looked laboured at times in possession but we kept going. We huffed and puffed."

A pretty honest appraisal if you ask me. And not much 'I' but always 'we' - collective responsibility ya see?

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