NewBlue Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 In fairness to Kirk, for that cross that Matt Smith scored away at Bury to send them down he goes straight into the hall of fame for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Was out with a former teammate of Winchesters the other night no names and he said he just can't be arsed with being a footballer he doesn't have the desire, I know he's a quite lad and maybe he doesn't like the pressure of being a pro, such a shame because he has bags of talent so he needs motiviating then maybe this is what he means by knucklingdown ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Feels we are a centre half shortOdd decision to send Edmumdson out on loan then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I know there's a few resident Irish on this board. Any of them know if Kirk Millar is indeed ripping up trees in that division, like the caller said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Odd decision to send Edmumdson out on loan then Not really, they obviously don't think he is ready for first team yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He says we don't stick a quick forward on the halfway line at corners as it has no effect on the opposition whereas having one less man back would affect us.... That's bonkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Err.. Ninda and Kirk Millar were pisstakes lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 That's bonkers Not necessarily. Most teams keep 2 players back at corners whatever. When you leave 1 man up that doesn't change that (possibly forces them closer to the half way line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Not necessarily. Most teams keep 2 players back at corners whatever. When you leave 1 man up that doesn't change that (possibly forces them closer to the half way line). Just guarantees that a clearance comes straight back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He says we don't stick a quick forward on the halfway line at corners as it has no effect on the opposition whereas having one less man back would affect us.... We have conceded goals through this tactic, I think it's bonkers, but SC said other teams do it so I guess that makes it ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 We have conceded goals through this tactic, I think it's bonkers, but SC said other teams do it so I guess that makes it ok. The one comment of his that disappointed me tonight. Just because others do it so we have too ?? Others score goals but we don't !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I've thought we've looked much better at defending corners, it allows us to have men on both posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 We have conceded goals through this tactic, I think it's bonkers, but SC said other teams do it so I guess that makes it ok. He said other teams do it but he gave his reason why we do it so let's not make out he just got asked and said we do it cos everyone else does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I've thought we've looked much better at defending corners, it allows us to have men on both posts. Struggle to see how ten players aren't enough to do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Obviously the thought is that excluding their keeper, 2 on halfway line and corner taker that leaves them 7 players to attack the ball where we have 11 to defend. The thinking is obviously that we should be way more likely to take control of the ball than opposition and it's easier to come away with ball as a team rather than hoping one guy can hold ball up on halfway line while everyone catches up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Anybody have an examples of when leaving a man on the half way line at a corner actually gave us an attacking advantage? Anything at all? Examples from elsewhere in recent years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) We have conceded goals through this tactic, I think it's bonkers, but SC said other teams do it so I guess that makes it ok. How does having a extra defender cause us to concede goals. Feel free to reply unless you can't see this as I'm blocked! Edited September 12, 2016 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Anybody have an examples of when leaving a man on the half way line at a corner actually gave us an attacking advantage? Anything at all? Examples from elsewhere in recent years? I heard the first half of the show which included this discussion. SR said that they leave 2 back even if we dont leave anyone upfield. He then said that if we leave 1 upfield they still leave 2 back who win the ball from our 1 but we then have 1 less defender. He said that the only time it really becomes different is if we leave 3 up who can all win headers but didnt elaborate further. I think that he might be correct on the first 2 points but it worries me in his 3rd point that he only discussed winning headers. Does he mean that if we defend a corner and come away with the ball then we will simply hoof it. Edited September 12, 2016 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) I heard the first half of the show which included this discussion. SR said that they leave 2 back even if we dont leave anyone upfield. He then said that if we leave 1 upfield they still leave 2 back who win the ball from our 1 but we then have 1 less defender. He said that the only time it really becomes different is if we leave 3 up who can all win headers but didnt elaborate further. I think that he might be correct on the first 2 points but it worries me in his 3rd point that he only discussed winning headers. Does he mean that if we defend a corner and come away with the ball then we will simply hoof it. Would have to listen again to be sure but I think he was talking about needing 3 or 4 really good headers of the ball in defence to make up for lower numbers back defending. Edited September 12, 2016 by nzlatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just guarantees that a clearance comes straight back This. That :censored:house Shez used to do the same first time round then admitted he was wrong when he came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Would have to listen again to be sure but I think he was talking about needing 3 or 4 really good headers of the ball in defence to make up for lower numbers back defending. hopefully I misheard him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 This. That :censored:house Shez used to do the same first time round then admitted he was wrong when he came back. The :censored:house who saved us last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The :censored:house who saved us last season Still a :censored:house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Still a :censored:house. Always a legend....still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Always a legend....still In your (and other's) opinion. Not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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