Dave_Og Posted July 12, 2017 Author Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Is it not possible to have an opinion on someone if you haven't seen them play in the flesh then? Of course it's possible to have an opinion, just not an especially valid one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Of course it's possible to have an opinion, just not an especially valid one. Hadn't seen Peter Clarke play much, had a fair idea of what we could expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Is it not possible to have an opinion on someone if you haven't seen them play in the flesh then? An inaccurate one yeah why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, palmer1 said: Why? How many times have you seen him turn out Chesterfield in recent years in the same role and formation as Shez will use him? In fairness I'm absolutely sure I've seen him play more than any of the staff have... Not that it's all relevant but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: I will wait till I've seen him play a few, I suspect Shez, Wright and Wellens are a better judge of a midfielder than you or I so on that basis I'm happy to sit back and see what he has to offer, especially played more centrally than he's been used too. I believe he hasn't been brought in with starting in mind. Or at least not as first choice. I'm intrigued to see him play at this level having seen him a lot in non league, but from his Chesterfield days I can't see him having the impact that you would want from a starter. Goes without saying I hope he succeeds, probably moreso than most new signings as well. When I look at the other signings made it puts into perspective ours so far, without wanting to be too pessimistic. We're going to need another proper grafting team effort again this season, from the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, HarryBosch said: We might be looking to "play a bit more football" on a better pitch In which case I'm backing us - all the way to November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, NewBlue said: I believe he hasn't been brought in with starting in mind. Or at least not as first choice. I'm intrigued to see him play at this level having seen him a lot in non league, but from his Chesterfield days I can't see him having the impact that you would want from a starter. Goes without saying I hope he succeeds, probably moreso than most new signings as well. When I look at the other signings made it puts into perspective ours so far, without wanting to be too pessimistic. We're going to need another proper grafting team effort again this season, from the looks of it. He wont start as he misses the first 3 first team games through suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 The first handicap betting I've seen (WilsonBet) has us joint lowest rated with Shrewsbury with a start of 28 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dave_Og said: The first handicap betting I've seen (WilsonBet) has us joint lowest rated with Shrewsbury with a start of 28 points. Got a link? Don't think we will manage it but worth a few £'s. Edited July 22, 2017 by Blue_Guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Dave_Og said: The first handicap betting I've seen (WilsonBet) has us joint lowest rated with Shrewsbury with a start of 28 points. Bet 365 have the same 28 point start and are offering 18/1 on it. Bet Victor are offering a 24 point start for 18/1 Oddschecker.com is your friend for comparing odds Would expect us to have a hefty start on most handicaps based on other odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 7 hours ago, rudemedic said: Bet 365 have the same 28 point start and are offering 18/1 on it. Bet Victor are offering a 24 point start for 18/1 Oddschecker.com is your friend for comparing odds Would expect us to have a hefty start on most handicaps based on other odds. Got a link to bet365 offer? Struggling to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 7 hours ago, rudemedic said: Bet 365 have the same 28 point start and are offering 18/1 on it. Bet Victor are offering a 24 point start for 18/1 Oddschecker.com is your friend for comparing odds Would expect us to have a hefty start on most handicaps based on other odds. The last 4 winners of league 1 Sheff Utd 100 points Wigan 87 points Bristol City 99 points Wolves 103 points In some of those seasons the team in 6th has been over 28 points back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 50 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: The last 4 winners of league 1 Sheff Utd 100 points Wigan 87 points Bristol City 99 points Wolves 103 points In some of those seasons the team in 6th has been over 28 points back. Ye surely the bet at 4/7 to stay up is the one to win your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Ye surely the bet at 4/7 to stay up is the one to win your money I agree it seems like free money but would have to put it on a treble at least for me to get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Ye surely the bet at 4/7 to stay up is the one to win your money Maybe so....would you risk £700? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just now, oafc1955 said: Maybe so....would you risk £700? 70. Think if the missus saw I'd put 700 on a bet I'd be counting bin bags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 If I were to put £700 on and we end up having a season like the last one I wouldn't have any fingers left never mind nails ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Ye surely the bet at 4/7 to stay up is the one to win your money If that appeals to you at the price and you've plenty of wonga to make it worthwhile it is a good bet but waiting 9 months to draw kills it for me, if you like a short priced bet Hideki Matsuyama is 7/4 for a top 5 finish going into the final round of The Open today, much better value in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: If that appeals to you at the price and you've plenty of wonga to make it worthwhile it is a good bet but waiting 9 months to draw kills it for me, if you like a short priced bet Hideki Matsuyama is 7/4 for a top 5 finish going into the final round of The Open today, much better value in my opinion. Ye I wouldn't have the patience. I prefer to lose my money quicker ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: If that appeals to you at the price and you've plenty of wonga to make it worthwhile it is a good bet but waiting 9 months to draw kills it for me, if you like a short priced bet Hideki Matsuyama is 7/4 for a top 5 finish going into the final round of The Open today, much better value in my opinion. I'm not massively knowledgeable on the golf but is there any good value bets on Rory ? I just have a feeling he's gonna have a good day today. Could you recommend anything ? on a side note I've been doing ok on these pre season friendlies both teams to score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 He's 5/2 for a top 5 finish...a final round of 66/67 would probably be enough...he's more than capable...do you feel lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: I'm not massively knowledgeable on the golf but is there any good value bets on Rory ? I just have a feeling he's gonna have a good day today. Could you recommend anything ? on a side note I've been doing ok on these pre season friendlies both teams to score 6/5 for a Top 10 looks good value, problem I have with that bet is he's likely to go shit or bust early on today because he is so far behind Speith and he's no real interest in anything other than a win, if he picks up a couple of shots early though 6/5 would look massive, he's 4/1 for Top 5 which seems about right for me and 1/4 for Top 20 which looks certain to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: 6/5 for a Top 10 looks good value, problem I have with that bet is he's likely to go shit or bust early on today because he is so far behind Speith and he's no real interest in anything other than a win, if he picks up a couple of shots early though 6/5 would look massive, he's 4/1 for Top 5 which seems about right for me and 1/4 for Top 20 which looks certain to me. 4/1 for top 5...with who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Handicap looks impossible as ever, Fleetwood +18 might be the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: The last 4 winners of league 1 Sheff Utd 100 points Wigan 87 points Bristol City 99 points Wolves 103 points In some of those seasons the team in 6th has been over 28 points back. There will be plenty of decent sides so it'll be fairly tight I'd have thought. Winner won't be near 100 points, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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