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As per the title, I’m intrigued to know if anyone knows the cumulative combined total of every Oldham signing ever? Or even a vague guess? I’m not after an ‘adjusted for inflation figure’. Ian Olney is still the dearest and he’s peanuts in the grander scheme of things. I’d wager that both Manchester City and Real Madrid have a player on their bench tonight that cost more than every player in our history combined?

His average league points per game would have seen us easily safe with a full season. Purely on a statistical basis. he improved the league position since he took over. thats me out of positives. I'm done.

League Two it is...

We're fucked.

Tonights results don't make a blind bit of difference. They could only have been drawn in to the relegation battle if both ourselves and Rochdale won. If we win we stay up in either situation. It makes no difference to us.

I don't buy in to that. At the end of day Ripley is 24. He has about 100 professional games under his belt. Valdes, although he'll still be under contract for another year will be one of, if not the, top earner at Middlesbrough. He's also 35 and a depreciating asset so it'd make sense to get rid in the close season. I doubt he'll want to slum it in the Championship. Brad Guzan is off to the MLS. Now bear in mind Pickford is younger than Ripley and had a similar number of professional games at lower levels before being given his Premier League debut and it seems entirely logical that Ripley will be starting games next season in the Championship.

Sort your heads out lads. Teams put their young players out to gain experience and blood them, he's been progressed year on year. Why hold him back? The next natural step is the Championship and guess where Middlesbrough will be playing next year? Ding, ding, we have a winner. The notion that a 'foreign coach' won't know what he can do is also utter fantasy. 'Oh hi, Mr X, Y, Z, what do you know about our squad of players that you wish to manage?' Reply; 'Nothing. I know nothing about football, I just thought I'd chance my arm in this country and expect your existing backroom team to be equally as clueless if they are still about?' where do you lot get your ideas from?

Dont know to be honest as it was locked on a rather cowardly basis.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39697804 Sadly a few on here were probably talking rubbish. It was obvious it was a false conviction, hence why I said so at the time. Now a team that will be a league ABOVE US next year, have bought a player for £500k (the whole thing will have reduced his value). That could've been £500k net profit (Suppsedlly his wages would be paid by his birds Dad?) and/or a FREE striker that a promoted club sees value in? Hope the haters on here feel VERY STUPID?

Christ. I have NEVER seen a conspiracy theory on Jill Dando before. Next you'll all start on 9/11 (I was born in America) but the thing with conspiracy theories is just THAT, they are a theory. Some right nuggets on here.

He did alright for years with knackered old ones. Bollocks to the score board, get Shez his terminator legs. Champions League here we come!

There is a sticky fingers joke in there. I know there is...

Oops, I missed replying to that bit earlier. This one makes me laugh. He's not responsible for other people's actions and I'm sure he doesn't know every acquaintances 'usernames' or the like. If you'd be wrongly accused of something and people were defending you, would you tell them to stop? I sure as hell wouldn't. Father in law? You do realise that he isn't married don't you? Granted, she's not overly pretty (looks like she will end up a bloater) but is he to be blamed or lambasted for someone putting together a legal team? In that case, only the guilty would use the legal profession eh?

If I'm being completely honest, a bit of both. I shall expand. As I've said previously, I worked with someone (a couple of people actually) who were on City's academy at the same time as he was. I last worked with a lad called Andy at the point Ched signing for Sheffield United so followed his career from there. I was already very well versed on the details before he'd left prison, let alone been linked with us. I'm a former rep (not a legal thing I acknowledge) and I have done Jury service, so feel I'm able to look at things in an objective manner. In terms of his 'wrongs', although questionable and immoral they are not illegal - cheating on your bird, having a 'go' after your mate, leaving via a fire escape etc. On the flip side, as much as something is made of leaving via the fire escape he entered via the main entrance, the room was booked in his name etc. I genuinely believe he is a victim of circumstance and I do not believe, for a second, that a rape took place. When we got linked with him, I wasn't surprised but it would have resulted in me attending games again rather than being an 'armchair fan' (by all means, use it to lambast me, I'm not fussed!). The scope of watching a potentially multi-million pound striker who's career was on an upward trajectory at the time interested me a lot more than watching all the crap we've had up front since our measly £750k record signing from over 2 decades ago. (Although I loved Banger's pace although it's all he had, McCarthy and later Wijnhard). I've watched the club deteriorate. One of the last times I went, which gives you idea of how long ago it was, we had Bertrand on loan. My mate, who is a Forest fan, and I were laughing at how crap he was and wondered what Mourinho saw in him. He was terrible. Anyway, I digress. The whole idea of the transfer market is to 'find value' and we would have done that with Ched. If it gets overturned I'd hope we MAY have a chance of signing him in recognition of the fact we tried to put our money where our mouth was, sadly there will be better offers out there. For me, what he did is far less than Lee Hughes. He crashed in to someone whilst pissed (he'd already been done for drink driving!), he KILLED someone, left someone else in a wheelchair, left the scene of the accident, didn't report the accident to the police and hid away for 1 and a half days. In summary, we've signed someone who wasn't someone I wanted at the club. We haven't got a pot to piss in, these situations will keep cropping up. Big clubs can afford morals and don't need players who have missed years of playing and/or training.

Even if you want to carry on with your blinkered outlook, that's fine. Let's tackle it from another angle - he's served his time. That's his punishment. His punishment (or any other persons for that matter) isn't for a load of tampon wielding misandrists to hound his every move and prevent him from plying his trade. I can guarantee you'll encounter people on a day to day basis that carry far more risk than Ched Evans would. Know the history of your window cleaner/delivery boy/window cleaner/pool boy/gardener/painter/decorator/mechanic/bus driver/taxi driver/shop assistant/builder/plumber/electrician or the like? Nope thought not. A guy with a questionable conviction (the fact it's got to appeal speaks volumes) running round a bit of grass kicking a ball about in fronts of masses of people holds NO risk, unless you think that if he scores a hat trick he'll jump in the crowd and tag team the first girl he comes across along with everyone celebrating the goals? It's narrow mindedness of the highest order. As I say, when it's overturned let's see if 100k+ people sign something to acknowledge that they had a mob mentality and a sheep mindset? We both know they won't, they'll just STFU like they should have done from the start.