Worcester Owl

Really? I checked this morning and we were 12/1, hard to believe the odds would have come down that much

Manager’s union, not a surprising comment really.

I’m going back a long way now, I took my daughter to what if I remember was Capello’s first match in charge of England, must have been about 2008? I was stunned to discover the pies there (“hand crafted” ) were £12!!! All those years ago. I don’t mind sports venues having a monopoly on food and drink provided they charge fair prices and have plenty of choice, otherwise as you say let fans take their own buttes!

Well that’s a good article and you can understand why Frank & co chose Arundel, great story. Does this mean Arundel are not as good as they were then? Or have we changed supplier? As you say, we need to know! Piegate!!

I’m with you on this, and not just for station staff. Before I retired I used to regularly get a GWR train back late from London Paddington and the trains weren’t very busy at that time of night. It didn’t worry me, but if driver only trains get the go ahead and conductors/train managers get axed I can’t imagine lone females would feel as safe in some of the near empty carriages. NB that is NOT to be taken as a sexist comment!!

Oh no further proof that I’ve lived in the south for too long Down here I’d run a mile from a pie priced at £4!! That said, if there are good alternatives as @redlion says then yes, the club should be shopping around.

I know you’ve had a yellow card from Matt, but come on. This is as surreal as Trump standing up and saying it’s all my fault, blame me, etc.

Spot on. And while I don’t always find myself agreeing with your posts, that’s also one of the funniest things I’ve read on here, I couldn’t stop laughing at the image of a balaclava-wearing manager in the dugout!

With the odd exception, those days are long gone, and were even when Scholes was coming to the end of his playing career. It’s a romantic idea, but when you’ve played at the highest level and earned squillions why would you feel the need to finish in the lower leagues?

As a proud Middletonian and lifelong Latics fan, I’d triple upvote this if I could! Scholes might not be the worst choice, but I can’t see it happening. When he took the job last time he made it clear he wouldn’t tolerate boardroom interference, and he proved to be a man of his word. He wasn’t here long enough for anyone to form a view on whether or not he might be a good manager.

I don’t think people are saying that. We are 22nd in the table and 23rd on playing record. People are saying that DU does not have what it takes to turn this form around.

Not sure Brian Clough would have agreed with your view if applied to club boards generally, and he wasn’t a bad manager for most of his career!

Yes, because we are extremely capable of going OTT with our opinions on our club, precisely because it means so much to us. An outside perspective will usually be more objective. Where does Basil say that we should stick with DU? What he actually said was Only you know how youare doing on all three, or whether Unsworth is the right man. He's had fifty gamesnow, and I'd imagine over the next couple of months the Board will reach conclusionsabout him one way or another. I’d say that’s a pretty objective view, whether you agree with it or not. I’d also say that Basil’s views on how clubs are run, given his experience at Blackpool, are very valuable indeed. And for the record, I can’t see DU delivering winning football on a sustained basis, and so I believe we need a new manager.

I'd say you've just taken insularity to a new level. Personally, I find an outside perspective on where we are on and off the pitch invaluable.

Depends what you mean by success. I read somewhere the other day that United are the biggest net spenders over the last 10 years. Try suggesting to their fans that they deserve an open top bus parade through the city centre if and when they finish in the top 4.

At the risk of becoming no.6........ Come on, @BP1960, there's no need for that. I would say @Dave_Og is one of the more thoughtful and restrained posters on here! You're resorting to the personal abuse that you rightly complain about from others. It's a discussion forum, all sorts of opinions, as has often been pointed out. Remember the one thing we all have in common - the misfortune to be Latics fans! Relax and don't get so touchy.

I played golf yesterday at a lovely club north of Worcester. Great course and a fine meal afterwards, one of my favourites - except it was bangers and mash!! Eating that in 30c heat was bloody tough. Right meal, wrong weather!

You make some great points and actually I find myself agreeing with both you and L1F, so it's clearly a tricky subject! Where I do think L1F has a good point is re fans complaining. I always remember the second FA Cup SF v United in 1994 at Wembley for the dogs abuse that Giggs got from United fans that day, it was unbelievable.

Can't disagree with your points here overall, though I would say maybe if/when we win 3 on the bounce the OTT reaction that you describe might be precisely because we are so success starved. Bit like a guy dying of thirst being given water - if he doesn't sip it but gulps it down, it can have disastrous consequences!

I can't get no satisfaction from watching us at the moment, so your idea could be a money spinner, BP.

Me neither! Bouzanis? (ALLEGEDLY)

Do you think DU might be related to Todd Boehly by any chance?! They seem to have a similar approach to squad building (allowing for the difference in quality)!

Oh I don't let not having watched/listened to a speech stop me from having a view! For example, I've never sat through a Trump speech but I have a reasonable (my opinion) view that he is not fit to be President! Anyway, on the far more important issue of our club: I'm actually with those who say Frank shouldn't really go in the away end and "mix it" with the fans - there'll always be a few who go over the top with remarks about Unsworth or anyone else, and Frank doesn't deserve that (I'm not saying those fans are not entitled to their view). Yes of course the owner/Board's patience is not limitless. There will come a point where that patience runs out, however supportive they are - and 14 league wins out of 44 games suggests they are very supportive.

I haven’t seen/heard what he said, but I can’t imagine Frank begging for anything. Could be Frank’s version of the dreaded vote of confidence perhaps

That's not true at all. As far as I can see, those who want Unsworth out do so because they want Latics to be successful - surely that is support, not hate, and positive, not negative? And everybody appreciates what the Rothwells have done for the club. The essential question is, how long should he be given? We now have 6 games in the remainder of September, against teams currently 22nd, 13th, 23rd, 17th, 20th and 14th. All winnable and if we don't get as a minimum say 12-14 points then I'd say it'll be time to bring in a new coach.