GlossopLatic Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, tGWB said: There has been one constant in our decline as a Club over the last decade and that’s Barry Owen. Saying that, the safety concerns listed are very damning and for me, whilst they should have been resolved in private, they cant be ignored Looks like the OEC /FLG have not only given the Club the bullets to be shot at but have even loaded up the gun for them. If the health and saftey concerns are so damning why are season ticket holders being allowed into the OEC? Why is anybody its clearly a bullshit arguement from Bullshit Baz. If you want to see a Health and safety concern take a look at the step in the main stand upper they are death trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, jsslatic said: Glad I've got a season ticket which will keep me safe if the fire door is chained up. Swings and roundabouts - having a season-ticket means you're more likely to get burned on all those occasions when the team play like they're on fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, GlossopLatic said: If the health and saftey concerns are so damning why are season ticket holders being allowed into the OEC? Why is anybody its clearly a bullshit arguement from Bullshit Baz. If you want to see a Health and safety concern take a look at the step in the main stand upper they are death trap. Come on. Its as simple as the OEC appear to have mucked up and given an open goal to the Club to take free shots Who knows if the restricted entry rules have been genuinely imposed by the Council or the Clubs Safety Officer or just seen by the Club to make things difficult for the OEC Managementb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, tGWB said: Come on. Its as simple as the OEC appear to have mucked up and given an open goal to the Club to take free shots It's not a free shot though is it? It's the club making themselves look like complete and utter twats yet again by playing whatever it is out in public. Yet another nail in the coffin of caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's not a free shot though is it? It's the club making themselves look like complete and utter twats yet again but playing whatever it is out in public. Yet another nail in the coffin of caring. No winners is there And our fans watching from the sidelines feeling more distant from the Club we once loved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, tGWB said: No winners is there And our fans watching from the sidelines feeling more distant from the Club we once loved How in hell did it go from being excited about a game on Saturday to debating fire doors. Unbebloodylieveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsrblue Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I've never been inside the North stand. Is it possible to walk in the stand's front door, through the building and outside to the seats to watch the game for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: How in hell did it go from being excited about a game on Saturday to debating fire doors. Unbebloodylieveable. Not been yet this season Did the walk with PtB two weeks back, then went home to sit in front of the tv to watch Gillette Soccer Saturday like every other Saturday now League2 footie is terrible, made much worse by the creaking of the trapdoor being oiled up to drop us into Non League football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The fire doors shouldn't be chained, but all that needs to happen here is for the safety officer or council to tell the OEC management that they must not be chained up when people are inside the building. The club seem concerned that a banned supporter is frequenting the bar, and that fans are getting into he seating area for free. If that's the case, then the doors enabling them to do so should be locked, and entry to the ground should be via the turnstiles only. That way the banned supporter couldn't get into the ground. He is then perfectly free to drink in the bar if he wishes. The club seem to be saying that they are responsible for the bar on match days. If access to the ground was not possible (as I said by locking the doors to the ground). Are they still responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Steve Cross, the ex-kit man that was ejected from the North Stand was in the OEC today. Not sure that's helpful really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 hours ago, singe said: Comparing the OEC to OAFC board is pretty insulting... Based on what? Your opinion!. The whole thing is a shambles,no one comes out of this with a positive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, latics22 said: Based on what? Your opinion!. The whole thing is a shambles,no one comes out of this with a positive! Ah, the old everyone's bad but we're less bad than them tactic by Barry & Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, latics22 said: Based on what? Your opinion!. The whole thing is a shambles,no one comes out of this with a positive! Aren't forums supposed to be about opinions? Or must we simply acquiesce to the owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I’m not sure how anyone can read all those statements and come to the conclusion they’re both as bad as each other. Clear tactics on behalf of the club to try and hit the takings of OEC and send a bit more traffic perhaps their way. It’s precisely because of this underhand way of doing things that some fans feel so disengaged from the club. Even when form picks up on the pitch the way the hierarchy at the club conduct themselves, means it doesn’t feel like there’s anything positive going on. They seem totally incapable of learning. To the club - Instead of spending all your time trying petty point scoring and coming up with new ways to try and spite the FLG to the detriment of the fans, please just try and behave like adults and professionals. It’s pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 8:28 AM, singe said: Comparing the OEC to OAFC board is pretty insulting... Perhaps that’s the intention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoutsider Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Perhaps that’s the intention? Apologies if I have missed it previously, but I don’t think this has ever been explained... In so much as, I know you don’t appear to like the people behind the OEC. Are there specific reasons why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Clear tactics on behalf of the club to try and hit the takings of OEC and send a bit more traffic perhaps their way. Extremely petty reaction from the club. Obviously directed at those who use the OEC pre-game and then don’t go to the game. A poorly judged decision that does the club no credit compounded by attempting to justify it under terms of health and safety. OEC 1 v Regime 0.(OG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 dp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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singe Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Theoutsider said: Apologies if I have missed it previously, but I don’t think this has ever been explained... In so much as, I know you don’t appear to like the people behind the OEC. Are there specific reasons why? He sacked them, seems to be about the extent if it. Well, because they criticised him. Paul Whitehead built the stand, and he is trying to get that on the basis there was fraud in the grants from Oldham Council, although that looks dubious from the minutes at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 And after all that legalese by the highly remunerated lawyer, they couldnt stop anyone who don't have a ticket after all! Incompetence reaches dizzying new heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoutsider Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, singe said: He sacked them, seems to be about the extent if it. Well, because they criticised him. Paul Whitehead built the stand, and he is trying to get that on the basis there was fraud in the grants from Oldham Council, although that looks dubious from the minutes at the time. Thanks. I meant why does Kowenicki have a dislike of Paul Whitehead, Simon Brooke and Simon Wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Theoutsider said: Thanks. I meant why does Kowenicki have a dislike of Paul Whitehead, Simon Brooke and Simon Wood. Lil thing called jealousy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Theoutsider said: Apologies if I have missed it previously, but I don’t think this has ever been explained... In so much as, I know you don’t appear to like the people behind the OEC. Are there specific reasons why? I don’t know them. I’m not impressed with two of them from what I’ve seen though. The other that we are aware of has a chequered commercial history, to say the least. Now, this doesn’t mean I’m an ‘AL man’, it just means I’m not impressed with them, that’s all. They’ve done nothing whatsoever that is impressive that I’m aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Lil thing called jealousy... Ha. Funny. You don’t know anything about me and if you did you’d know that’s ridiculous. I mean....Simon Brooke!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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