yarddog73 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 On 20/02/2018 at 10:00 PM, yarddog73 said: Shez normally comes good this time of the season. Fleetwood know the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, Ak's11 said: https://twitter.com/TheNinetyTwo_/status/966631142362402816 Shez to fleetwood He’s had the opportunity at Latics to bring in loanees to help keep us up. Will have to do it with existing squad at Fleetwood . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I really hope he does the job, although obviously not at our expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I wish Shez all the best in finishing one place below us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: He’s had the opportunity at Latics to bring in loanees to help keep us up. Will have to do it with existing squad at Fleetwood . True, but he also get the players we had working together. He's got something there to build on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, LaticsPete said: He’s had the opportunity at Latics to bring in loanees to help keep us up. Will have to do it with existing squad at Fleetwood . With the exception of those without a club. Think youth loans don't apply to the transfer window either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I’m glad we don’t have to play them. He’ll no doubt be on a big bonus if he keeps them up but sooner or later he’s going To fail....I hope he succeeds but as has been said...not at our expense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, oafcprozac said: Portsmouth - 35 places from where they traditionally are Bournemouth + 44 places better off We're 19 places worse off. So if we claim Historical right, we're 2nd in the league and going up! Yeh, but that average is a fluctuating one... every bad year we're closer to mean. What I'd like to see is the effect of our continued 3rd tier position on the mean, and how that compares to others. Someone like Bournemouth may be well above mean, but they were below it not long ago... I'd like to see how that lies for a decade or so. Are they a flash in the pan (yes, unless they make it seriously stick) versus us, who're persistently below our historical position. If that makes sense? In which case an argument can be made for the present being more representative than the historic. If we want to get really deep someone should then take those trends and compare them to the local area's socioeconomic picture and see if there's a correlation (or even causation!). But, I've gone full stats-nerd now and we've not a chance Sky will fund it... maybe someone should tweet the Guardian, they like that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ackey said: Yeh, but that average is a fluctuating one... every bad year we're closer to mean. What I'd like to see is the effect of our continued 3rd tier position on the mean, and how that compares to others. Someone like Bournemouth may be well above mean, but they were below it not long ago... I'd like to see how that lies for a decade or so. Are they a flash in the pan (yes, unless they make it seriously stick) versus us, who're persistently below our historical position. If that makes sense? In which case an argument can be made for the present being more representative than the historic. If we want to get really deep someone should then take those trends and compare them to the local area's socioeconomic picture and see if there's a correlation (or even causation!). But, I've gone full stats-nerd now and we've not a chance Sky will fund it... maybe someone should tweet the Guardian, they like that kind of thing. This is why I don't teach Maths....anyway this Polar Vortex...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, oafcprozac said: This is why I don't teach Maths....anyway this Polar Vortex...... I do teach maths and that's blown my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: I do teach maths and that's blown my mind. I work with stats but studied philosophy. Some lovely mathematical tautologies there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, Ackey said: If we want to get really deep someone should then take those trends and compare them to the local area's socioeconomic picture and see if there's a correlation (or even causation!). But, I've gone full stats-nerd now and we've not a chance Sky will fund it... maybe someone should tweet the Guardian, they like that kind of thing. I've long since though that was a likely long term trend with the gravaitation of wealth and economic activity to the South East and also cultural factors that would make overseas players prefer to play in and around London. Outliers like Citeh would skew the overall stats though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, leeslover said: I work with stats but studied philosophy. Some lovely mathematical tautologies there. Impressive stuff from Ackey, if only Latics knew what they had when he was a mere web monkey...could have sold him on and put in a clause.... That Corney could have cashed in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAV Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Shez to fleetwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Magic Mikey said: I wish Shez all the best in finishing one place below us. I hope they don’t finish 3rd bottom then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 56 minutes ago, Ackey said: versus us, who're persistently below our historical position. Not sure that bears out. Of our 101 league seasons: top flight = 12/101 In 2nd of 3 tiers = 13/101 In 2nd of 4 tiers = 20/101 In 3rd of 4 tiers = 30/101 bottom flight = 26/101 Bottom flight obviously includes when we were in 3N when there was no 4th divison (16 seasons - 10 top half, 6 bottom half), and 3 when there were only 2 divisons. Of the 12 seasons in 2nd of 3rd tiers we were top half 7 times, bottom half 5. Even ignoring the above, our 37 years in 3/4 or 4/4 is not far off eclipsing the 45 years we've been in the second tier or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: In 3rd of 4 tiers = 30/101 ....most of us have witnessed 2/3 of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Ackey said: Yeh, but that average is a fluctuating one... every bad year we're closer to mean. What I'd like to see is the effect of our continued 3rd tier position on the mean, and how that compares to others. Someone like Bournemouth may be well above mean, but they were below it not long ago... I'd like to see how that lies for a decade or so. Are they a flash in the pan (yes, unless they make it seriously stick) versus us, who're persistently below our historical position. If that makes sense? In which case an argument can be made for the present being more representative than the historic. If we want to get really deep someone should then take those trends and compare them to the local area's socioeconomic picture and see if there's a correlation (or even causation!). But, I've gone full stats-nerd now and we've not a chance Sky will fund it... maybe someone should tweet the Guardian, they like that kind of thing. Don't forget away following as a percentage of home crowd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Don't forget away following as a percentage of home crowd... I'll tell ya what Dave, you're bang on..... 1 Oldham 19.2% 2 Blackburn 16.6% 3 Blackpool 16.3% 4 Bury 15.9% 5 Rochdale 15.5% 6 Rotherham 15.4% 7 Oxford 13.8% 8 Northampton 13.6% 9 Scunthorpe 13.5% 10 AFC Wimbledon 13.0% 11 Peterborough 12.9% 12 Shrewsbury 11.5% 13 Bristol Rovers 10.7% 14 Wigan 10.4% 15 Plymouth 9.9% 16 Portsmouth 9.8% 17 Walsall 9.8% 18 Southend 9.2% 19 Gillingham 8.1% 20 Doncaster 7.9% 21 Charlton 7.2% 22 Bradford 6.0% 23 Fleetwood 6.0% 24 MK Dons 4.8% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Magic Mikey said: I do teach maths and that's blown my mind. Maths? What’s the big deal ? There are only ten numbers - and that’s including zero. After that surely it’s just a question of putting them in the right order. With reading and writing there are 26 characters to deal with - much more complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, LaticsPete said: Maths? What’s the big deal ? There are only ten numbers - and that’s including zero. After that surely it’s just a question of putting them in the right order. With reading and writing there are 26 characters to deal with - much more complex. Two words. Algebra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Two observations; 1. Close your eyes, this interview could've been given 2 years ago.... 2. He doesn't [I don' think?] mention us by name. ... https://youtu.be/jN3XDNB62Q4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: I'll tell ya what Dave, you're bang on..... 1 Oldham 19.2% 2 Blackburn 16.6% 3 Blackpool 16.3% 4 Bury 15.9% 5 Rochdale 15.5% 6 Rotherham 15.4% 7 Oxford 13.8% 8 Northampton 13.6% 9 Scunthorpe 13.5% 10 AFC Wimbledon 13.0% 11 Peterborough 12.9% 12 Shrewsbury 11.5% 13 Bristol Rovers 10.7% 14 Wigan 10.4% 15 Plymouth 9.9% 16 Portsmouth 9.8% 17 Walsall 9.8% 18 Southend 9.2% 19 Gillingham 8.1% 20 Doncaster 7.9% 21 Charlton 7.2% 22 Bradford 6.0% 23 Fleetwood 6.0% 24 MK Dons 4.8% Top 5 are all from the north west think that tells a story in itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, stevesidg said: Top 5 are all from the north west think that tells a story in itself ....that the casual fans from our home towns all support Man Yoo & Citeh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, stevesidg said: Top 5 are all from the north west think that tells a story in itself That everyone is desperate for a day somewhere else...? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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