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Always got the impression that Kean didn't really love football. Seemed to go through the motions but he'd made his breakthrough at Championship (maybe Prem level?) so people better qualified than me saw something in him. He was average in that loan spell but might be in a better frame of mind now.

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It did seem to go wrong for Kean about the time Johnson left he did make a crucial save on a 1 on 1 in the Swindon game I remember at that point he seemed alright.

 

At home to Barnsley the day Johnson returned, he was pretty poor we conceded 3 from set pieces that day I think he dropped the first one at the strikers feet. 

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Kean started off quite solidly but suffered a massive confidence loss midway through his spell here. As mentioned, coincidentally when LJ left. The same could be said for several players. Coleman replaced him during the MK game and couldn't be dislodged after that.  

 

I trust Shez to get some consistency out of him if it's us that have made the bid.

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3 hours ago, oafcprozac said:

Was he that bad?

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He wasn't great.  We lost 7 of the 11 games he played in and got better when Coleman (a rookie at that stage) replaced him.  To put those stats into context, we only lost 5 of the 33 games prior to Kean coming in with a similar defence but Rachubka in goal who wasn't that great either.

 

Kean falls into the same bracket as Dean Brill and Ben Amos.  The perfect physical builds to be great 'keepers, but for one reason or another proved to be pretty shit.  I hope we don't sign him.

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A Wolves fan on twitter has just mentioned there's a rumour of Harry Burgoyne coming to us on loan. Played 7 times for WWFC last season, including a 2-1 win at Anfield in the FA Cup. Seems highly rated, and has trained with England U21s.

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57 minutes ago, Simpo said:

A Wolves fan on twitter has just mentioned there's a rumour of Harry Burgoyne coming to us on loan. Played 7 times for WWFC last season, including a 2-1 win at Anfield in the FA Cup. Seems highly rated, and has trained with England U21s.

Fitz the bill based on the rumours doingbthe rounds 

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4 minutes ago, Blue_Guru said:

Fitz the bill based on the rumours doingbthe rounds 

Well they bought 2 keepers earlier in the month following ikeme's illness and they already have lonergan so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they will be wanting him to move and gain experience

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1 hour ago, Simpo said:

A Wolves fan on twitter has just mentioned there's a rumour of Harry Burgoyne coming to us on loan. Played 7 times for WWFC last season, including a 2-1 win at Anfield in the FA Cup. Seems highly rated, and has trained with England U21s.

Conceded 4 on his debut but was still named MotM...

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According to Alan Nixon in the Sun the keeper could be Sunderland's Max Stryjek the Polish U21 international who played in the Euros. 

He says we are also after experienced midfielder John  Welsh on loan from  Preston.

 

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9 minutes ago, BP1960 said:

According to Alan Nixon in the Sun the keeper could be Sunderland's Max Stryjek the Polish U21 international who played in the Euros. 

He says we are also after experienced mudfielder John  Welsh on loan from  Preston.

 

 

Heard of both, don't know much about Stryjek but Polish U21 sounds promising.

 

Welsh would certainly add more power and strength to the midfield.  Him, Green and/or Fane in centre midfield with Clarke, Gerrard and/or Wilson at the back?  Not a defensive unit that teams would get a lot of joy from.  He's also a Football Manager legend from years back which means a lot obviously :wink: .

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18 minutes ago, robboman said:

Sunderland. Young Polish keeper Stryjek wanted on loan by Oldham. Talks ongoing. More in paper.

 

from nixon 

 

It might be a knee-jerk reaction to them losing 5-0 to Celtic yesterday, but their fan response is "send them Jason Steele instead."

 

Sounds as though Stryjek isn't far off their 1st team either way which is promising.

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1 hour ago, josh_latics said:

Nixon also saying Blackburn first choice for Ripley, interest from Bristol City and others, but Boro don't really want to sell. 

 

All this could end with Ripley getting an improved deal with Boro and assurance of some first team football. 

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19 minutes ago, HarryBosch said:

 

All this could end with Ripley getting an improved deal with Boro and assurance of some first team football. 

 

Which is really the logical step. Think the strange part was giving Dimi a new contract at 38, when they had a 24 year old, home-grown keeper, who has had two impressive loan seasons in a row. Plus the fact that Monk plays a lot of younger players would seem to help Ripley. 

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2 hours ago, the_mighty_bosh said:

 

Heard of both, don't know much about Stryjek but Polish U21 sounds promising.

 

Welsh would certainly add more power and strength to the midfield.  Him, Green and/or Fane in centre midfield with Clarke, Gerrard and/or Wilson at the back?  Not a defensive unit that teams would get a lot of joy from.  He's also a Football Manager legend from years back which means a lot obviously :wink: .

 

I look at that midfield and think where is the creativity. I'm afraid that if we're looking at a reliance on Gardner and Banks to be our only real creative outlets we're going to struggle massively in terms of goals once again.

 

We're also going to be painfully slow as a side if we get rid of McLaughlin.

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2 minutes ago, NewBlue said:

 

I look at that midfield and think where is the creativity. I'm afraid that if we're looking at a reliance on Gardner and Banks to be our only real creative outlets we're going to struggle massively in terms of goals once again.

 

We're also going to be painfully slow as a side if we get rid of McLaughlin.

 

Flynn should be a greater creative influence for us playing football in a Shez side rather than whatever the fuck that was under Robbo. 

And Fawns might well have a part to play. 

 

Hunt, Dummigan, Obadeyi, Duffus all have pace and Green and Fane can do a lot of running. 

 

The more pace the better, always, but is it all that necessary the way Holloway & Davies will hold the ball up and knock it down/link up play? 

Cuteness and running on from midfield could be more what's needed.  

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