jorvik_latic Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Abdallah Lemsagam, a stormy shadow between Nantes and Oldham In the small world of clubs and negotiations, there are presidents, sports directors, players and intermediaries. Among these, one of them has long seen its influence flourish on the side of Nantes. And now in England, in Oldham. Many called him Marco. Yes, Marco, or rather Abdallah Lemsagam, the real name of the one who pulled some strings at FC Nantes. " He called himself that ," says a French agent. But today, everyone knows him. Those who dare to talk about it prefer to remain anonymous. With this type of guy, languages are loosened, faces, less. Presented to Waldemar Kita by Gilles Favard, former leader of the Canaries, in 2009, Abdallah Lemsagam must allow to degrease the workforce thanks to the overweight of his address book in the Middle East. Built over many years in the Gulf, partly via real estate, the network of this Moroccan born is plump, transactions facilitated. His Dubai-based company, Sport2jlt - led today by his brother Omar - boasts of Moussa Sow, Juninho, Ze Roberto, Lassana Diarra, Ismail Bangoura, Alvaro Negredo and a few coaches. From the four corners of the globe to the Middle East, Abdallah Lemsagam often manages transit. " Years ago, he started doing the agent, the broker , traces an incognito knowledge of the character. He has devoted himself to Qatar, the Emirates, Saudi Arabia ... He had a specialty: to target the players wanted by sheikhs and club owners, while ignoring European agents. He called the players and the presidents directly. It has always been a problem.Agent without license - current regulations tolerate it - Abdallah Lemsagam is the keystone of the wanderings to another Eldorado, where emoluments are generous, unpredictable sports projects and volatile traceability. Some find their account, others less, while some business turn to the tangle, amid new Chinese. Oldham, ghost players and frogs Abdallah Lemsagam is also in the lineage of these agents to the contiguous relations with the clubs. If he does not box in the heavyweight category, the purchase of Oldham, in D3 then down in English D4, is official. Via RLJ Capital Global FZC, a free zone company that helps trade through legal and tax benefits - from Dubai, the 41-year-old polyglot gave himself the Latics early 2018, which he was already advising. No one can say with certainty the reasons for this acquisition, while several sources make a hypothesis: " Abdallah works for a bigger fish.The truth is, she's navigating between business, ambition and ego, while the club has made its mark with the recent arrival on the bench of Paul Scholes, who finally left the club after thirty days, disappointed by the environment. nauseous. As Oldham, this is an opportunity for Lemsagam to bring back some elements, some overpaid, including Wilfried Moimbé and Queensy Menig from Nantes, or Mohamed Maouche and more recently Sohny Sefil, passed by Auxerre. A well-chosen entourage, even though a stormy stream of thought settles around the new owner: " I wish Oldham a bright future despite the uncertainty of this circus owner ," said striker Craig Davies after his departure.He calls his players in his office to criticize their teammates, organizes meetings to humiliate others before the team before the most important match, pay the players late. [...] I wish the club (and not the owner) success. " But also dictate the instructions to the coach, interference poorly digested by Boundary Park bench interim - five coaches in two years - while the gas and telephone bills are unpaid time. More than 35 employees were also dismissed, some anti-Lemsagam - sponsor as supporters - being banned even stadium. On the players side, a time loaned by Nantes to Oldham, Queensy Menig, arrived at FCN August 30, 2017 on the recommendation of Abdallah Lemsagam, has meanwhile never worn the colors of Nantes. A few games in England and a deleterious attitude according to the fans, the young winger spent by Ajax will not leave a great memory to Oldham, despite the biggest salary of the club: 11,000 books per week. 6 months later, he returned to square one, in Nantes,FC Raiola "), in the Netherlands. He has now returned to the banks of the Loire, in reserve. Without real success. " Abdallah has been trying to get Kita to do things that have no head and tails ," says a familiar from the FCN. There was talk of a Moroccan central defender, El Yamiq. Nantes already had 4-5 central defenders and youngsters. It had no interest. All this was obviously commissioned, while the agent specialized in the fabrications. In Oldham, where financial worries accumulate, as in Nantes, where the YellowPark projects and restructuring of the eleven found echo in the ear of the intermediary. " Of course he sold the arrival of investors to Kita. This is his big thing! " Discord around Amine Harit Described as Rocancourt, danger or crook, Abdallah Lemsagam has the merit of knowing how to place himself, to sneak. Intelligent, multilingual and effective dealmaker when it comes to the Middle East, he has made a name for himself. Not always charitable, certainly, like the Amine Harit file. While the young environment is leaving for Germany, Abdallah Lemsagam is interposed, going so far as to invite him for a sumptuous holiday in Dubai. " He did everything to destroy the transfer of Harit ," said an adjacent informed trading. He thought he could block the player to change his agent, get him back and make him leave the season after. What mattered was getting paid.A folder that will gradually amalgamate the names of birds. However, if Abdallah Lemsagam found an open door to the management of the club, a counter-current also emerged close to the Beaujoire. Like the Loire Brigade, which lamented " the bad influence of corrupt agents and unscrupulous " in a statement last summer. Or Franck Kita, sports director, who did everything to remove the Moroccan matchmaker from the circle of his grandfather. " The son Kita (Franck) moved heaven and earth to keep his father away from Abdallah , decrypts a sympathizer of the club. He can not bear his father talking to this guy. For El Yamiq, it is he who broke the deal while the medical visit was scheduled. Waldemar Kita wears, or at least wore, a very attentive ear to Abdallah.And while he also tied up the arrival of Andrei Girotto and was close to taking out Enock Kwateng's loan - he was also in the party for the Dubai trip - at Oldham last year, Abdallah Lemsagam For a long time, La Jonelière has been a staple. The situation, opaque and quirky, irritates inevitably. Starting with Waldemar Kita: " When it comes to buying or selling a player, everyone is close to everyone. That's how it happens. Why do not you talk about others? The subject is eminently taboo, but time has had its effect. Lemsagam is now non grata in Nantes, to the delight of yellow and green and Kita offspring. Even if misunderstandings, there, elsewhere, but especially in Oldham, continue to persist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Its mostly about his dealing with Nantes, who now will no longer work with him or his former agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 11,000 books a week! FFS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, youngen said: 11 minutes ago, Senor_Coconut said: Its mostly about his dealing with Nantes, who now will no longer work with him or his former agency. Is there a Nantes Supporters' Trust we could compare notes with I wonder? 36 minutes ago, youngen said: Le blanchisseur d'argent Generally reckon that a successful money launderer would see losing about 30% of the dodgy cash as an acceptable price of cleaning it. If anyone tried to do that with Latics they'd do well to retain 10% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, dannyboy55555 said: 11,000 books a week! FFS.. Loose translation of books...le livre (books)...11000 livre =11000 bucks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 "Described as Rocancourt, danger or crook.." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Rocancourt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, pk200 said: Loose translation of books...le livre (books)...11000 livre =11000 bucks ? It's short for Livres Sterling, so Pounds. Google Translate isn't the most accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 minute ago, jorvik_latic said: It's short for Livres Sterling, so Pounds. Google Translate isn't the most accurate. Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Oldham, ghost players and frogs That pretty much sums us up, didn't know Google translate was so accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I thought Kevin Chuckle had done the translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: "Described as Rocancourt, danger or crook.." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Rocancourt What a lovely sounding fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, lookersstandandy said: What a lovely sounding fella. His story would make a decent film though... Rocancourt, maybe not Abdallah... Hold on a sec though, I love these - who would play Barry? Who'd play Birkett? Craig Fairbrass could be Frankie Bunn - do you think he could do a Brummy twang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: His story would make a decent film though... Rocancourt, maybe not Abdallah... Hold on a sec though, I love these - who would play Barry? Who'd play Birkett? Craig Fairbrass could be Frankie Bunn - do you think he could do a Brummy twang? Steve McFadden as Barry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I think the Trust are taking the right course of action by the attempting to engage with him as I think it'll make them more credible when they do opt for more drastic measures. That said, I don't expect to see a peaceful resolution with AL. His track record isn't encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, jorvik_latic said: Steve McFadden as Barry... I know there aren't many, or they at least keep quiet about it for certain reasons, but it'd be great if we could find a gay Muslim to play Chuckle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I feel quite depressed after reading the translated article. Paints a pretty grim picture of our owner. This is published information so, if satisfying the requirements, anything false may be viewed as libellous. The people concerned must feel on firm ground with their views to have published the article. I genuinely fear for the future of our club. Can I make a suggestion to the Trust please? It should be a priority to write to the football authorities concerned and ask them a) what are their criteria for the "fit and proper person" test? b) what investigations took place regarding that test in the case of our takeover? and c) are the people who undertake such investigations competent and qualified to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I feel quite depressed after reading the translated article. Paints a pretty grim picture of our owner. This is published information so, if satisfying the requirements, anything false may be viewed as libellous. The people concerned must feel on firm ground with their views to have published the article. Am I right in saying libel laws are a bit less draconian in France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Am I right in saying libel laws are a bit less draconian in France? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 39 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I know there aren't many, or they at least keep quiet about it for certain reasons, but it'd be great if we could find a gay Muslim to play Chuckle.... Scarlett Johansson to play Top Off please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, youngen said: Scarlett Johansson to play Top Off please Whilst I cannot upvote this as it promotes and prolongs outdated sexist attitudes...it did make me smile. I apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, lalalajpkalala said: https://www.francefootball.fr/news/Abdallah-lemsagam-une-ombre-tempetueuse-entre-nantes-et-oldham/1005358 Can you do a better translation than the ones done via Google translate Dan?? (I think we all get the jist but...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, jorvik_latic said: .....He had a specialty: to target the players wanted by sheikhs.... .......can he please f*ckin sell us to one, then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 There is a positive side to the story. When referring to the owner on these pages we don't need to type out Abdallah or Lemsagam anymore.We can just call him Marco. If it catches on, it might even stop people calling him Abdullah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I feel quite depressed after reading the translated article. Paints a pretty grim picture of our owner. This is published information so, if satisfying the requirements, anything false may be viewed as libellous. The people concerned must feel on firm ground with their views to have published the article. I genuinely fear for the future of our club. Can I make a suggestion to the Trust please? It should be a priority to write to the football authorities concerned and ask them a) what are their criteria for the "fit and proper person" test? b) what investigations took place regarding that test in the case of our takeover? and c) are the people who undertake such investigations competent and qualified to do so? Thought they would be better being nice to him in order to maintain relations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: Whilst I cannot upvote this as it promotes and prolongs outdated sexist attitudes...it did make me smile. I apologise. My aim was not to be sexist. It was merely a request to see someone nice (in my opinion) with a top off, to counter the suffering we have had to endure in recent years. Whilst George has a lovely pair, I prefer female boobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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