OLDHAMADE Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 17 hours ago, Ryan said: Exactly! Point being that there are one million reasons as to why a player might not cement themselves into a first-team at a club, bad attitude is just one of those many many reasons He was brilliant in patches but he let himself and others down on a regular basis, looking back, he's best gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Most talented player we've seen at BP for some time. Wellens often played him wrongly and it did appear that he had an attitude problem. However, my view is that a manager is there to manage and, managed correctly, we would have had a £1m plus player on our hands. We'll never know and it's all ended very sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, wiseowl said: Most talented player we've seen at BP for some time. Wellens often played him wrongly and it did appear that he had an attitude problem. However, my view is that a manager is there to manage and, managed correctly, we would have had a £1m plus player on our hands. We'll never know and it's all ended very sadly. Even if he improved that much we’d never be able to sell him for that much. He’d refuse to go to a team that wasn’t in the Northwest or Ireland so he wouldn’t be homesick again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I'm afraid I can't let this go. Proper rental prices in Tallaght look to be 3-4 times higher than Kilmarnock. When he was in Scotland he would have been flush with Wigan money, signing fees and the rest, surely he could have afforded a place where the boiler had been tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) On 5/29/2019 at 5:44 PM, wiseowl said: Most talented player we've seen at BP for some time. Wellens often played him wrongly and it did appear that he had an attitude problem. However, my view is that a manager is there to manage and, managed correctly, we would have had a £1m plus player on our hands. We'll never know and it's all ended very sadly. So it’s only our managers fault he’s failed everywhere? Its rubbish this. Some people just can’t be managed, regardless of the skill and personality of the manager. He’ll fail again. Edited May 31, 2019 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, kowenicki said: So it’s only our managers fault he’s failed everywhere? Its rubbish this. Some people just can’t be managed, regardless of the skill and personality of the manager. He’ll fail again. Depends how you define failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 14 hours ago, kowenicki said: Its rubbish this. Some people just can’t be managed.... ... or there are just a considerable number of mediocre managers jumping on and off the football management carousel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, wiseowl said: ... or there are just a considerable number of mediocre managers jumping on and off the football management carousel? Yeah... and Jack’s just unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorkbagel Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Micah Richards has been released by Aston Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 22 hours ago, kowenicki said: So it’s only our managers fault he’s failed everywhere? Its rubbish this. Some people just can’t be managed, regardless of the skill and personality of the manager. He’ll fail again. The lad bossed it in the Eredivisie. If he is a failure then what are the rest of our current squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ryan said: The lad bossed it in the Eredivisie. If he is a failure then what are the rest of our current squad? You wouldn’t be exaggerating with the use off bossed it to suit your argument now would you Ryan ? Would it not be more accurate to say competed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: You wouldn’t be exaggerating with the use off bossed it to suit your argument now would you Ryan ? Would it not be more accurate to say competed ? Cambuur fans loved him and desperately wanted him on loan for another year, read some of the comments from them here :https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/why-blackburn-rovers-are-fools-to-let-jack-byrne-go-according-to-sc-cambuur-fans-108373. He was 19 playing week in week out (barring a few injuries he suffered) in one of the top leagues in Europe. How that’s considered a footballing failure is beyond me when I look at the absolute state of the careers some of our players have had... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ryan said: The lad bossed it in the Eredivisie. Has anyone still got that YouTube montage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryan said: Cambuur fans loved him and desperately wanted him on loan for another year, read some of the comments from them here :https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/why-blackburn-rovers-are-fools-to-let-jack-byrne-go-according-to-sc-cambuur-fans-108373. He was 19 playing week in week out (barring a few injuries he suffered) in one of the top leagues in Europe. How that’s considered a footballing failure is beyond me when I look at the absolute state of the careers some of our players have had... You don't think that going from bossing it in a top league to scrabbling around in a pub league is a sign of failure? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: You don't think that going from bossing it in a top league to scrabbling around in a pub league is a sign of failure? ‘Scrambling round’ in that league has earned him a call-up to a national side with many Premier League players. He made a choice to drop down a level to be more comfortable back home, it’s nothing to do with his ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ryan said: He made a choice to drop down a level to be more comfortable back home, it’s nothing to do with his ability. So it's his attitude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said: So it's his attitude? No. He moved to shamrock to be close to his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ryan said: Cambuur fans loved him and desperately wanted him on loan for another year, read some of the comments from them here :https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/why-blackburn-rovers-are-fools-to-let-jack-byrne-go-according-to-sc-cambuur-fans-108373. He was 19 playing week in week out (barring a few injuries he suffered) in one of the top leagues in Europe. How that’s considered a footballing failure is beyond me when I look at the absolute state of the careers some of our players have had... One of the top leagues in Europe ? Come on !! FWIW. I like him as a player. I think he’s a bell end. Would I have liked to have kept him ? Fucking right I would ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, Ryan said: Cambuur fans loved him and desperately wanted him on loan for another year, read some of the comments from them here :https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/why-blackburn-rovers-are-fools-to-let-jack-byrne-go-according-to-sc-cambuur-fans-108373. He was 19 playing week in week out (barring a few injuries he suffered) in one of the top leagues in Europe. How that’s considered a footballing failure is beyond me when I look at the absolute state of the careers some of our players have had... They got relegated that year didn’t they.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ryan said: No. He moved to shamrock to be close to his family. Would he be playing for Shamrock if PSG or Inter were options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ryan said: ‘Scrambling round’ in that league has earned him a call-up to a national side with many Premier League players. He made a choice to drop down a level to be more comfortable back home, it’s nothing to do with his ability. Desperate times.... etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, kowenicki said: They got relegated that year didn’t they.... As Eyresy is always saying, it’s possible to have a good individual season for a poor overall team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, leeslover said: Would he be playing for Shamrock if PSG or Inter were options? Ha. I can guarantee multiple League One clubs would’ve taken him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: One of the top leagues in Europe ? Come on !! FWIW. I like him as a player. I think he’s a bell end. Would I have liked to have kept him ? Fucking right I would ! Not top 5 obviously but it’s a very good League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Ryan said: Ha. I can guarantee multiple League One clubs would’ve taken him on. No you can't because nobody did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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