Bobledgersheart Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 34 minutes ago, oafc_lover said: 36 minutes ago, oafc_lover said: Wouldn’t mind seeing Benyu brought on instead of Tope on that right wing as he looks like he has pace to burn. Don't know where this comes from, I've not seen him run at all ! Maybe if he was pushed wide he'd show more because when played in the middle he looked lost.Came with a good reputation from Celtic but not shown anything yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I hope he's amazing but Wellens has talked him up in an almost identical manner to how he talked up Benyu..... What has he said about Benyu...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 After Pringle has disappointed, there’s a starting spot waiting for McEleney if he can show something on his return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I've asked some people, who have watched League of Ireland games for many years, about McEleney and got these comments: Quote He certainly is one of the best players in the league of Ireland. He had a heck of a season, even if he sometimes went missing in big games, and scored some great goals. He is a master of the lob. Quote If he scores you will be talking about it for the week. Unbelievable goals this season and is a player of massive talent. If he finds his feet you could be in for a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewBlue said: After Pringle has disappointed, there’s a starting spot waiting for McEleney if he can show something on his return Has Pringle disappointed? He may not have lived up to the hype from some Latics fans (does anyone?!) but he has been solid and his delivery from set pieces has been excellent at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, palmer1 said: Has Pringle disappointed? He may not have lived up to the hype from some Latics fans (does anyone?!) but he has been solid and his delivery from set pieces has been excellent at times. What's his head position like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, leeslover said: What's his head position like? I'm sure that's supposed to be amusing, it isn't! don't be a dick! he obviously cant turn it left at times to see Gervaro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: What has he said about Benyu...? How good he was going to be, "has an arrogance on the ball", stuff like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, palmer1 said: I'm sure that's supposed to be amusing, it isn't! don't be a dick! he obviously cant turn it left at times to see Gervaro... No scouting points for that. Our players can't see him with eyes in the back of their head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 A tad baffled at the criticism Pringle is getting. He's getting back to full fitness and is very tidy on the ball. Hard to judge against MK as its impossible to play a passing game on that pitch of ours, but a few Rovers supporting mates reckon he was our best player last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, palmer1 said: Has Pringle disappointed? He may not have lived up to the hype from some Latics fans (does anyone?!) but he has been solid and his delivery from set pieces has been excellent at times. I agree with all this. He looked a little out of sorts while he was finding his fitness but seems an important part of the way we're currently playing. It's no coincidence that we appear much more threatening from set pieces but for whatever reason, he incurs the wrath of the North Stand every time he fails to play the quick pass. Personally, I'd love to see him in a team playing the way we did when Wellens was caretaker manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, palmer1 said: Has Pringle disappointed? He may not have lived up to the hype from some Latics fans (does anyone?!) but he has been solid and his delivery from set pieces has been excellent at times. If you’re going off how much money he earns compared to his performance levels I’d be confident we’d all agree he’s disappointed. He’s a player deemed by 4 clubs as fit for the Championship, the prime age of his career. Would you argue that he’s reached the levels you’d expect from a Championship (or too end League 1) player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanna Roper Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, palmer1 said: Has Pringle disappointed? He may not have lived up to the hype from some Latics fans (does anyone?!) but he has been solid and his delivery from set pieces has been excellent at times. He seems to be getting better and better each game looks allot fitter then he did in his first game shame we didnt have him earlier in the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAM MUMPS Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, NewBlue said: If you’re going off how much money he earns compared to his performance levels I’d be confident we’d all agree he’s disappointed. How much money does he earn and how much money are we paying him or his club for his services exactly? Because going off that post you have made a big assumption based on those figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, NewBlue said: If you’re going off how much money he earns compared to his performance levels I’d be confident we’d all agree he’s disappointed. He’s a player deemed by 4 clubs as fit for the Championship, the prime age of his career. Would you argue that he’s reached the levels you’d expect from a Championship (or too end League 1) player? Unless a player is supremely talented or truly abysmal, then any measure of performance between those two is surely a subjective response. I may think Pringle is acquitting himself well, you may think he is waste of space. We seem to have more than a few candidates of that ilk in the Latics squad. Personally I think he is doing ok and will keep improving with more match time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, NewBlue said: If you’re going off how much money he earns compared to his performance levels I’d be confident we’d all agree he’s disappointed. He’s a player deemed by 4 clubs as fit for the Championship, the prime age of his career. Would you argue that he’s reached the levels you’d expect from a Championship (or too end League 1) player? I have idea how much he earns? He has had a serious injury hasn't he which has restricted his playing time at Preston? He needs time to get up to speed and I don't think our pitch helps any of the midfielders. He has played 10 times from Preston in 2 years so what were you expecting? If he was showing the form he produced at Rotherham he wouldn't be anywhere near us loan or otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Pringle's not had the (obvious) impact I was expecting or actually been the type of player I thought he was. As his fitness has got better and better though so have our results..... Might be coincidence, might not be.... On another note - he's more one footed than Long John fucking Silver... Edited February 15, 2018 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, palmer1 said: I have idea how much he earns? He has had a serious injury hasn't he which has restricted his playing time at Preston? He needs time to get up to speed and I don't think our pitch helps any of the midfielders. He has played 10 times from Preston in 2 years so what were you expecting? If he was showing the form he produced at Rotherham he wouldn't be anywhere near us loan or otherwise. Why wouldn't he be near us? We’ve thrown a bit of money about lately and Preston are 7th(?) in the Championship. Given a Championship side signed him for a fee from another Championship club, and he’s on a 3 year-deal, you’ve got to think he’s on £4K+ a week at least. How much we’re paying of that I don’t know, but I bet there were more suitors than us for his services. That being said, Byrne hasn’t done much either recently, and they’re similar players, so maybe there’s something bigger which is causing our creative players to be struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 His hairdo is a true crime against humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, NewBlue said: That being said, Byrne hasn’t done much either recently, and they’re similar players, so maybe there’s something bigger which is causing our creative players to be struggling There is, the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: On another note - he's more one footed than Long John fucking Silver... Left footed players usually are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, NewBlue said: Why wouldn't he be near us? We’ve thrown a bit of money about lately and Preston are 7th(?) in the Championship. Given a Championship side signed him for a fee from another Championship club, and he’s on a 3 year-deal, you’ve got to think he’s on £4K+ a week at least. How much we’re paying of that I don’t know, but I bet there were more suitors than us for his services. That being said, Byrne hasn’t done much either recently, and they’re similar players, so maybe there’s something bigger which is causing our creative players to be struggling He wouldn't be anywhere near us because if he was showing the same form he was in at Rovrum hed be playing in the championship. Not a lg1 relegation battle, I thought that would be obvious. Like I said I don't know what he's earning, I don't care, its irrelevant and nothing to do with his form which hasn't been bad anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 52 minutes ago, palmer1 said: He wouldn't be anywhere near us because if he was showing the same form he was in at Rovrum hed be playing in the championship. Not a lg1 relegation battle, I thought that would be obvious. Like I said I don't know what he's earning, I don't care, its irrelevant and nothing to do with his form which hasn't been bad anyway. Surely the cost of a player and the expectations for that player are intertwined..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Surely the cost of a player and the expectations for that player are intertwined..? The fee paid for a player? Yes (if you know it). A guess of what he might be earning elsewhere and how much we are paying of that? No. He's played something like 10 games in 2 years and had a bad injury? That and our current circumstances should be used to judge him. Could probably do better (same for every player) but getting better (same for every player) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Cracking interview on iPlayer. Speaks very well. Quite considered answers, not banal monosyllabic ones..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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