whittles left foot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, oafc_lover said: Top and tail of it is we don’t really know if removing Fane will make us better or worse until we try it. We played at Shrewsbury without him and the midfield performed well. So the quote above is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: May I ask again. So why do you like Fane? I’ve already answered. He gives his all every game. It’s also fair to say his ability has improved a lot this season, he actually looks like a footballer. He was integral to our team during our best run this season, and it is harsh to drop him, but I just feel a more attacking approach is needed in these remaining home games. Maybe benching him won’t work and we’ll still struggle for goals until Doyle is back. All I know is that something needs to change, and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Because they ignored the 'critics' on OWTB who slagged him off but voted Weso(fcukin)lowski Player of the Season I liked Lee Johnson and still do but the way he used Korey Smith with us was footballing sacrilege. What a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, whittles left foot said: We played at Shrewsbury without him and the midfield performed well. So the quote above is not true. We lost the game, he didn’t play because he was injured and his replacement got subbed off at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Like him or loathe him Fane has to play if he’s fit. Believe me I’ve taken some convincing with him, he’s THE most awkward looking player when he’s got the ball that I’ve ever seen! His weight of pass his abysmal at times, but the one thing he can do - and does do - is break up play. He puts in some tremendous tackling with those long legs of his. Sometimes a team needs a lesser talented player to do the dirty work for the flair players. We just don’t seem to have any tacklers in midfield, but Fane certainly is, and he gets through a massive amount of work every game. He might not be pleasing to the eye but I guarantee that the likes of Byrne and Gardner love playing alongside him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, oafc_lover said: We lost the game, he didn’t play because he was injured and his replacement got subbed off at half time. So how does being injured make a difference? He did not play. Knew you would say we lost-well we lost on New Tears Day and he was dreadful. His 'replacement ' is a fringe player-one of the ones brought in for no apparent reason which is all contributing to our crap season-again. 3 minutes ago, Gary1906 said: Like him or loathe him Fane has to play if he’s fit. Believe me I’ve taken some convincing with him, he’s THE most awkward looking player when he’s got the ball that I’ve ever seen! His weight of pass his abysmal at times, but the one thing he can do - and does do - is break up play. He puts in some tremendous tackling with those long legs of his. Sometimes a team needs a lesser talented player to do the dirty work for the flair players. We just don’t seem to have any tacklers in midfield, but Fane certainly is, and he gets through a massive amount of work every game. He might not be pleasing to the eye but I guarantee that the likes of Byrne and Gardner love playing alongside him. You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) Without checking - which Oldham player has the second most yellow cards in League One with 9? Edited February 1, 2018 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, whittles left foot said: You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. You don't come on here much do you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: So how does being injured make a difference? He did not play. Knew you would say we lost-well we lost on New Tears Day and he was dreadful. His 'replacement ' is a fringe player-one of the ones brought in for no apparent reason which is all contributing to our crap season-again. You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. 7 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: So how does being injured make a difference? He did not play. Knew you would say we lost-well we lost on New Tears Day and he was dreadful. His 'replacement ' is a fringe player-one of the ones brought in for no apparent reason which is all contributing to our crap season-again. You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. 8 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: So how does being injured make a difference? He did not play. Knew you would say we lost-well we lost on New Tears Day and he was dreadful. His 'replacement ' is a fringe player-one of the ones brought in for no apparent reason which is all contributing to our crap season-again. You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. 9 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: So how does being injured make a difference? He did not play. Knew you would say we lost-well we lost on New Tears Day and he was dreadful. His 'replacement ' is a fringe player-one of the ones brought in for no apparent reason which is all contributing to our crap season-again. You will not read a bigger load of rubbish on here this year. You’re entitled to your opinion. As am I, I think. Such a shame you have a name of one of our golden oldies. You do him a disservice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Without checking - which Oldham player has he second most yellow cards in League One with 9? This a rhetorical question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, rudemedic said: This a rhetorical question? No. No it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, HarryBosch said: No. No it's not. Gardner. Byrne is likely to reach 10 soon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: A defensive midfielder in Wigan's lineup, or Blackburn's or that Bristol City team is an affordable luxury because they've got loads of other players to create and score the goals in comparison to teams like us at the other end of the table. It almost makes it unfair that they have all that attacking talent and then make it even harder for the opposition by using a quality DM aswell just to make sure Not sure how serious you are being there 42 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: We're fucked if we don't start scoring soon. Even if starting Fane was producing clean sheets (it isn't) we'd still be playing with fire because we need goals more than clean sheets if we're to get out of this latest mess. We are but we've outscored everyonelse in the bottom half and have the worst defense in the country we keep gifting teams goals we have gone back to conceding 2 a game which got John Sheridan the sack and will see us go down if we carry on doing this we cant neglect this. Even without Doyle we have the attacking players to get us goals. If 2 of Mclaughlin Tope Byrne Gevaro find enough form to create chances 1 or 2 of Davies Nazons or Holloway will find the back of the net enough times but if we keep shipping goals it wont matter. 54 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: In a month (probably when Doyle's back) the dynamic might mean that Fane's playing an integral part in a free scoring winning side again. I hope so because he's one of my favourite players. Hes the one player who has come out of the last month with added credit at the moment he is doing his bit no need to take him out. Its other players who I think should be dropped. 57 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Oh and, I've seen this more than once on here recently - Milligan and Henry weren't defensive midfielders. Retract that please Request refused They didnt play too many killer balls through or dprayed the ball around like John Sheridan. Box to box players? To an extent, but box to box players usually get more than 3 goals a season, we couldnt call them attacking midfielders for that reason either. They went round winning the ball back and playing simple passes to the more creative players if defensive midfielders don't do that what do they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Gardner should have been subbed off and immediately released after the Charlton goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Not sure how serious you are being there We are but we've outscored everyonelse in the bottom half and have the worst defense in the country we keep gifting teams goals we have gone back to conceding 2 a game which got John Sheridan the sack and will see us go down if we carry on doing this we cant neglect this. Even without Doyle we have the attacking players to get us goals. If 2 of Mclaughlin Tope Byrne Gevaro find enough form to create chances 1 or 2 of Davies Nazons or Holloway will find the back of the net enough times but if we keep shipping goals it wont matter. Hes the one player who has come out of the last month with added credit at the moment he is doing his bit no need to take him out. Its other players who I think should be dropped. Request refused They didnt play too many killer balls through or dprayed the ball around like John Sheridan. Box to box players? To an extent, but box to box players usually get more than 3 goals a season, we couldnt call them attacking midfielders for that reason either. They went round winning the ball back and playing simple passes to the more creative players if defensive midfielders don't do that what do they do? Which is exactly what Fane does. Wins the ball and plays a simple pass to a more creative player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Gary1906 said: Which is exactly what Fane does. Wins the ball and plays a simple pass to a more creative player. He wins the ball, that is true. It is also true to say that he has no awareness whatsoever and is ill suited to playing in a midfield 2 at the moment, especially when the other one is Gardner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, deyres42 said: He wins the ball, that is true. It is also true to say that he has no awareness whatsoever and is ill suited to playing in a midfield 2 at the moment, especially when the other one is Gardner. I can’t believe I’m defending him because in the past I’ve just thought that he’s poor, and in a lot of ways he still is, but he’s undoubtedly improved under RW, and what he does do he does very well. I really think we would miss him if he wasn’t in the team. I never thought I’d say that about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Oh and, I've seen this more than once on here recently - Milligan and Henry weren't defensive midfielders. Retract that please One of them would have happily have sued us for thousands of pounds though due to injuries caused by the plastic pitch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Richard Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Whatever we do on Saturday, we must keep it simple. Get the basics right, like players holding position and not be pulled everywhere like last week were we had our biggest attacking threat, Byrne covering at right back as we saw before the second goal. Nazon looked like he was playing central midfield at times, too far away to have any impact in the final 3rd. We don't need to try silly 40 yard Hollywood passes, knock it wide and get the ball in the box to a blue shirt, not cross and hope. On paper we have a good side, we need to get out of the mind set that only Doyle can score goals, there is plenty of attacking potential, we have to figure out how to score with out Doyle for this month. The only way we can do that is make sure everyone sticks to position and task, through this, the goals will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 In conclusion a team that is leaking poor goals again should drop our only proven defensive midfield player and play Byrne in front of a new untried untested left back just to see how it goes. Nil points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Ryan said: I really like Fane but we still concede a lot with him playing. He offers nothing going forward imo and we’ve really struggled for goals since Doyle’s injury. Time to try a more attacking side, especially at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Hands on said: In conclusion a team that is leaking poor goals again should drop our only proven defensive midfield player and play Byrne in front of a new untried untested left back just to see how it goes. Nil points. Fane has some good attributes but I certainly wouldn't describe him as a defensive midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Gary1906 said: You’re entitled to your opinion. As am I, I think. Such a shame you have a name of one of our golden oldies. You do him a disservice. Yeah agree with the first line. How so for the the last line? Perhaps it is because I have watched players of his calibre play for this club. Players with ability in what was the same league (and lower)at that time. Perhaps because I despair at the lack of quality both in this league and this club where players like Fane are treated as good players. Can I just add that liking a player is not the same believing he is a good player. I liked Craig Dudley for instance but he was never going to be a great player. Perhaps it is because I realise that we are in a worse state now as a club than we were 2 months ago and that is with a new owner who so far has done nothing to make me believe there is a brighter future ahead. So doing him a disservice? I think not. Telling the truth as I see it with no abuse or name calling-yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I liked Lee Johnson and still do but the way he used Korey Smith with us was footballing sacrilege. What a waste. It was what was required with the squad that we had then-precisely the same philosophy that you have spent the vast majority of this thread putting forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: It was what was required with the squad that we had then-precisely the same philosophy that you have spent the vast majority of this thread putting forward. Korey Smith was an extremely able footballer. Fane is very limited but fucking good at what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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