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To publicise the good work the Community Trust does I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread to spread the word.

 

This looks like a great programme, and the evidence base is seemingly strong too.

 

https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2018/february/03022018-man-v-fat-community-trust/

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Good stuff and one point they missed out on their list...Socialising...which is something that is often lacking for people with health problems.

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30 minutes ago, Wardie said:

Good stuff and one point they missed out on their list...Socialising...which is something that is often lacking for people with health problems.

Yep there is some decent evidence on the benefits of social activity in those with health problems. 

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Agree.

I'd like to commend them in their help setting up the links to the OAFC Girls and Women, Glad we have a joined up team now. Should have been done some time ago.

WAS going to do another post.

We great to see OAFC Girls challenging.

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The Community Trust has done it again. Fixing something that had been missing since the Landlords tore down the old Lookers stand. 

 

 

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Diverse Communities: This afternoon we visited Jalalabad Jamay Masjid, for an event with #RedStarBengal, through our @EFLTrust diverse communities delivery. We were joined by members of the local community as well as @OfficialOAFC players Branger-Engone, Sylla & Maouche. #OAFC

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz8ITssXQAMixDC.jpg

 

:applause1:

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, kellys_discopants said:

While I'm usually extremely supportive if the Community Trust and the work they do, the same cannot be said for this.

 

The jargon police can rest easy as Cancer Research UK has a very handy page on the issue, with diagrams.

https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/03/06/why-a-one-off-psa-test-for-prostate-cancer-is-doing-men-more-harm-than-good/

 

Essentially testing the PSA of a man* who is without symptoms can cause more harm than good. 

 

For more information see https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/prostate-cancer/psa-testing/

 

If you have any of the symptoms https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/prostate-cancer/symptoms/ and some other risk factors, like a family history, then please see a health care professional to discuss further.

 

If prostate cancer screening via a PSA test was worthwhile, the Community Trust wouldn’t have to be linking with a ‘commercial provider’ to do it. This is because it would be available on the NHS.

 

Please don’t think that if you are asked to attend screening by your GP or other NHS provider you shouldn’t as a result of this, please attend any screening opportunity you can.

 

*In this case a man is someone with a prostate, even if they now identify as another gender.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, rudemedic said:

While I'm usually extremely supportive if the Community Trust and the work they do, the same cannot be said for this.

 

Those familiar with some of my early work may want to mute this thread as I explain why this is. 

 

The same applies to members of the Jargon Police, although Detective Bosch has already seen my explanation via Twitter (sometime last year). 

 

*To be updated*

So testing prostates isn't a good thing? What am I missing

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2 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

So testing prostates isn't a good thing? What am I missing

Not in those without symptoms (See https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/prostate-cancer/symptoms/ for the symptoms, most of you may spot that most of these are quite non-specific symptoms). If you have any of the symptoms and have unintentionally lost weight (half a stone or more in less than 3 months), then please see your GP.

 

Testing a man’s PSA when he doesn’t have any symptoms, to my knowledge, never been recommended.

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5 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

 

 

Testing a man’s PSA when he doesn’t have any symptoms, to my knowledge, never been recommended.

 

Because? 

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If it was the ground staff doing it off their own bat then I'd be concerned, these seem to be medical professionals so I'd tend to take their word for it.

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8 hours ago, rudemedic said:

 

Essentially testing the PSA of a man* 

 

*In this case a man is someone with a prostate, even if they now identify as another gender.

 

 

 

 

oh ffs... 

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9 hours ago, rudemedic said:

See above

 

No. You’ve not explained why it would be harmful. 

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7 hours ago, maddog said:

 

No. You’ve not explained why it would be harmful. 

Which is a significant part of the reason why it isn’t recommended - first do no harm etc. That and its low sensitivity of around 30% (sensitivity is the rate of true positives) with 85% being a cut-off for a good test. To put it another way 70% of men with a high PSA do not have prostate cancer.

 

Personally I thought this was all well explained by https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/03/06/why-a-one-off-psa-test-for-prostate-cancer-is-doing-men-more-harm-than-good/ 

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By Easter The Community Trust will ahve visited 70 of the 90 odd Primary Schools in Oldham Schools. A great achievement.

 

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26 minutes ago, rudemedic said:

Which is a significant part of the reason why it isn’t recommended - first do no harm etc. That and its low sensitivity of around 30% (sensitivity is the rate of true positives) with 85% being a cut-off for a good test. To put it another way 70% of men with a high PSA do not have prostate cancer.

 

Personally I thought this was all well explained by https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/03/06/why-a-one-off-psa-test-for-prostate-cancer-is-doing-men-more-harm-than-good/ 

Is that receiving or giving anal sex? Asking for a friend

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3 hours ago, latics22 said:

Is that receiving or giving anal sex? Asking for a friend

Receiving, but also giving if you ejaculate. 

 

In fact anything, including a finger, going up, there can raise the PSA. The standard examination of the prostate can raise the PSA

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I'm keeping an open mind until I hear what Jenny McCarthy has to say about it 

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4 hours ago, rudemedic said:

Which is a significant part of the reason why it isn’t recommended - first do no harm etc. That and its low sensitivity of around 30% (sensitivity is the rate of true positives) with 85% being a cut-off for a good test. To put it another way 70% of men with a high PSA do not have prostate cancer.

 

Personally I thought this was all well explained by https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/03/06/why-a-one-off-psa-test-for-prostate-cancer-is-doing-men-more-harm-than-good/ 

 

Fair enough. 

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