blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Previous thread seems to have been censored for some reason and I can’t even find a merge. Well done Simon, years of your neglect had lead to this. This is all your fault. ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Hands on said: Nonsense! Really? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, blueatheart said: Really? Why? One person's fault? That's just silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: One person's fault? That's just silly The owner? Pretty key ‘person’. The guy who drives the club, ‘invests’ (or actually steals) from the club. The person who chooses the manager. Corney has lied, cheated and stolen from this club over the last three/four years. Prior to that his intentions and actions may well have been good, but the last few seasons and the culmination in relegation are laid squarely at his feet. He is far from the messiah and he definitely is a naughty boy. Edited May 5, 2018 by blueatheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, blueatheart said: The owner? Pretty key ‘person’. The guy who drives the club, ‘invests’ (or actually steals) from the club. The person who chooses the manager. Corney has lied, cheated and stolen from this club over the last three/four years. Prior to that his intentions and actions may well have been good, but the last few seasons and the culmination in relegation are laid squarely at his feet. He is far from the messiah and he definitely is a naughty boy. Look, Corney's gone. Lemdagam is here to save us. This here tonight feels like we're moving forward. Just enjoy it, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, blueatheart said: The owner? Pretty key ‘person’. The guy who drives the club, ‘invests’ (or actually steals) from the club. The person who chooses the manager. Corney has lied, cheated and stolen from this club over the last three/four years. Prior to that his intentions and actions may well have been good, but the last few seasons and the culmination in relegation are laid squarely at his feet. He is far from the messiah and he definitely is a naughty boy. From what I have read in the past, I think Dave understands accountancy. I'm looking forward to your reply Blue. As a starter, I think that "stealing" means taking more out of the club than investing. Go for it my friend with facts rather than the usual bollocks about "asset stripping". If you say that , "massive mistakes have been made", I'm with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoeP said: Look, Corney's gone. Lemdagam is here to save us. This here tonight feels like we're moving forward. Just enjoy it, eh? Corney is still a director who refuses to resign. 1 minute ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: From what I have read in the past, I think Dave understands accountancy. I'm looking forward to your reply Blue. As a starter, I think that "stealing" means taking more out of the club than investing. Go for it my friend with facts rather than the usual bollocks about "asset stripping". If you say that , "massive mistakes have been made", I'm with you. Corney has transferred thousands out of the club to support his lifestyle. Call it what you will, but when the football league solidarity payments hit the club accounts and Corney takes his share, I call it stealing. I wonder how Grace Nuttall is doing at the minute. Edited May 5, 2018 by blueatheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, blueatheart said: Corney is still a director who refuses to resign. Corney has transferred thousands out of th club to support his lifestyle. Call it what you will. That sounds remarkably like what I do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Dave_Og said: That sounds remarkably like what I do.... I’ve edited. All ends up, he’s taken money from a club who ultimately hasn’t survived. He’s had a go at fans for not turning up and he’s profited from the fans that have. It might not be stealing per se. But he’s no Robin Hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Understand emotions are high at the moment but this is absolute rubbish. There has been plenty of time to get us out of this mess-since Christmas the writing has been on the wall and the buck certainly doesn't stop at Corneys door. Remember this if nothing else-he never got us relegated whilst in charge. Folks like you were desperate for change in ownership-well you got it now suck it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, blueatheart said: I’ve edited. All ends up, he’s taken money from a club who ultimately hasn’t survived. He’s had a go at fans for not turning up and he’s profited from the fans that have. It might not be stealing per se. But he’s no Robin Hood. Talking in riddles now. I have no idea who Grace Nuttall is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, Dave_Og said: Talking in riddles now. I have no idea who Grace Nuttall is. She was the accountant at latics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: Talking in riddles now. I have no idea who Grace Nuttall is. Daughter of a former trust director (several years ago). Could be interesting. Probably bollocks. Look forward to be better informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Daughter of a former trust director (several years ago). Could be interesting. Probably bollocks. Look forward to be better informed. Really? Assuming you’re speaking of the guy who was locked up, I doubt he had a 40 odd year old daughter. I’m surprised you’re so pro-Corney, Jeff. I thought you had more nous than that. Edited May 5, 2018 by blueatheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just now, blueatheart said: Really? Assuming your speaking of the guy who was locked up, I doubt he had a 40 odd year old daughter. Maybe someone of a similar name? Ages not far aligned though. I'm not referring to the person you are implying though (I know him pretty well).. Plenty on here would know the person to whom I am referring? I'm not going to withdraw my statement though, Apologies if I have got it wrong. Over to you to prove that's the case if you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Corney hasn't left us.....yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 19 hours ago, underdog said: Corney hasn't left us.....yet Lemsagam, we are told, owns 97% of the shares and all of the votes. It wouldn't be difficult to call an EGM and vote him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Lemsagam, we are told, owns 97% of the shares and all of the votes. It wouldn't be difficult to call an EGM and vote him out. Currently, three can vote Al, Brookey and Corney so maybe an EGM will get called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 I would rather he stayed, better the devil you know and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, underdog said: Currently, three can vote Al, Brookey and Corney so maybe an EGM will get called Formally? On a motion? Surely it's one share one vote otherwise Lemsagam could be outvoted despite holding 97% of the shares! Clearly the fact he has got involved at all puts a question mark against his sanity but he'd have to be off the scale to have agreed to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Formally? On a motion? Surely it's one share one vote otherwise Lemsagam could be outvoted despite holding 97% of the shares! Clearly the fact he has got involved at all puts a question mark against his sanity but he'd have to be off the scale to have agreed to that. I thinks it's called articles if association with regards to the trust vote. It carries the same weight as the 97%. Al was keen to maintain this parity and when the change of ownership went through to companies house, he paid for the Trust part. One director one vote. Corney is still listed as a director Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, underdog said: I thinks it's called articles if association with regards to the trust vote. It carries the same weight as the 97%. Al was keen to maintain this parity and when the change of ownership went through to companies house, he paid for the Trust part. One director one vote. Corney is still listed as a director How can he be a director if he can't direct I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Few of us liked the Corney years because we made no progress. Simply that we made no progress but we stayed put. i was not a fan of his approach but boy do I wish he saw the season out and kept us in league 1 again. To blame Corney for what has happened in the last eight games of the season is the reasoning of the insane. Some blame lies with Wellens who will presumably wait for the sack and his severance pay. Most blame lies with the favouritism and interference by the owner who because he is the owner is perfectly entitled to do what he likes. What he likes has relegated our football club. If he carries on we will soon be fighting another battle - for survival in the football league. There is nothing about our situation that gives me cause for optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, underdog said: I thinks it's called articles if association with regards to the trust vote. It carries the same weight as the 97%. Al was keen to maintain this parity and when the change of ownership went through to companies house, he paid for the Trust part. One director one vote. Corney is still listed as a director He's full blown loop de loop if he agreed for the Articles to be like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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