L1onheartNew Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) One thing that really gets me about players walking away from reduced terms is the fact that the players, all of them, were offered reduced terms to get us out of a league that they were instrumental in relegating us to. If they had a conscience and were really as good as they think they are, they would take the reduced terms offer and earn the right to be offered better ones by redeeming themselves by gaining promotion. I'm sorry, was I snoring? Edited May 31, 2018 by L1onheartNew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I quite like him as a player. But I doubt we can carry such an injury risk when he’s presumably not on trivial money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Seems a bit daft to offer him a reduced package if we can get a fee by offering the same terms. He’s been on his way for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, Ryan said: Seems a bit daft to offer him a reduced package if we can get a fee by offering the same terms. He’s been on his way for ages. Except that that assumes someone is willing to pay a decent fee for him, and we’d be paying those wages until it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Crusoe said: Except that that assumes someone is willing to pay a decent fee for him, and we’d be paying those wages until it happened. Yeah, that's true, hadn't thought about it in that context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Crusoe said: Except that that assumes someone is willing to pay a decent fee for him, and we’d be paying those wages until it happened. Or that assumes that as he is out-of-contract someone could offer him exactly the same terms, but in League one or even the Championship, so he goes there and we get a fee. Due to inflation and what have you, the same terms are actually reduced terms. I suppose if there was a set clause in his old contract around reduced terms after relegation we could offer him that amount and it'd be classed as same terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I would offer to drive him myself to wherever he wants to go, however fuel money is an issue for me at the moment ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I like him. He gave me his big wedge of chocolate cake from the buffet after the pre-season game at Salisbury last year. Proper gent. We should keep him just for that magnificent gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: I would offer to drive him myself to wherever he wants to go, however fuel money is an issue for me at the moment ! Get him to drive the lawnmower from BP to the airport and leave an iou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 The guys twitter page doesn't even say he plays for oldham. It says something like 'footballer, Northern Ireland, and has a pic of him in NI shirt. He, along with most players we have had over the last ten years, doesn't have one bit of pride in playing for oafc. Problem is these players are not bad but the club is rotton to the core and has some deep rooted problems which are engrained in its culture. A grave yard where success is the exception, where few achieve anything, where the environment is toxic, where there is no winning mentality and hasn't been for 12 years! This is deep set. You can't change that very easily. It's reputation is in tatters as a result. If I were a player or a manager I wouldn't touch the club with a barge pole. One man to blame for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andy b said: The guys twitter page doesn't even say he plays for oldham. It says something like 'footballer, Northern Ireland, and has a pic of him in NI shirt. He, along with most players we have had over the last ten years, doesn't have one bit of pride in playing for oafc. Problem is these players are not bad but the club is rotton to the core and has some deep rooted problems which are engrained in its culture. A grave yard where success is the exception, where few achieve anything, where the environment is toxic, where there is no winning mentality and hasn't been for 12 years! This is deep set. You can't change that very easily. It's reputation is in tatters as a result. If I were a player or a manager I wouldn't touch the club with a barge pole. One man to blame for that He’s clearly off. I think he’s a talented player. All the best to him. We’ve a culture of losing, that’s been present since about 2010. There’s no reason to not expect us to at least mount an effort to get back up first time round, if we fall short next season, fair enough, but we have to be competing at the top of this league until we do get back up. The fear is regressing into a mid table League Two team until we end up battling for survival in the league like we have in League One. That’s the new owners job to make sure that doesn’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 31/05/2018 at 10:12 PM, Andy b said: The guys twitter page doesn't even say he plays for oldham. It says something like 'footballer, Northern Ireland, and has a pic of him in NI shirt. He, along with most players we have had over the last ten years, doesn't have one bit of pride in playing for oafc. Problem is these players are not bad but the club is rotton to the core and has some deep rooted problems which are engrained in its culture. A grave yard where success is the exception, where few achieve anything, where the environment is toxic, where there is no winning mentality and hasn't been for 12 years! This is deep set. You can't change that very easily. It's reputation is in tatters as a result. If I were a player or a manager I wouldn't touch the club with a barge pole. One man to blame for that There have been a number of players we have failed to look after as well. George Green for example very early into his contract left when he seemed to be really struggling. Don't think the club helped him? Jason Jarrett was claimed to be having problems around the same time he was with us as well. There's no real togetherness at the club for anyone to want to stay. Hopefully new ownership will start to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owdumer Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Pure speculation, you're just guessing and then offering gut feelings as fact. I seem to remember that Green was a concern for the staff at the time but sometimes you just can't help some people until they are ready to accept help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Macca said: There have been a number of players we have failed to look after as well. George Green for example very early into his contract left when he seemed to be really struggling. Don't think the club helped him? Jason Jarrett was claimed to be having problems around the same time he was with us as well. There's no real togetherness at the club for anyone to want to stay. Hopefully new ownership will start to change that. We can't afford to be a club offering such players these facillities.It's bad enough coping with some of the ones we had lto carry last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 He’s alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamoafc Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 He’s a waste of a wage. Always injured and when he’s not he’s offered us absolutely nothing in terms of goals and assists. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, oldhamoafc said: He’s a waste of a wage. Always injured and when he’s not he’s offered us absolutely nothing in terms of goals and assists. Good riddance. He scored a few important goals in our bid to avoid the drop season before last but I agree, on the whole he’s gash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Won’t miss him, because he never turns up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Could be playing tonight against Costa Rica..6pm BBC Red Button. Edited June 3, 2018 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Could be playing tonight against England's world cup opponents Costa Rica..6pm BBC Red Button. England don’t play Costa Rica? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Er, didn't he get injured on N. Ireland duty? Wouldn't that mean they were paying his wages (the same used to apply years ago, so can't see why it wouldn't apply now). His physiology will likely play a role in both his football skills and being injury prone. If you want speedy wingers it's quite likely that they will get injured regularly. As for not supporting those with (un) diagnosed mental health issues. Give over and grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: England don’t play Costa Rica? We play them in a friendly on Thursday. But yeah, they’re not “World Cup opponents” Edited June 3, 2018 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: England don’t play Costa Rica? Just testing the sharpness on OWTB readers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Just testing the sharpness on OWTB readers ? Played themin 2014? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Played themin 2014? Knew it was recently.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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