Smiler13 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, stevesidg said: Andy Welsh? A 34 year old crock who spends more time injured than actually playing. Good escape I would say. He was a great player but now is passed his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnafoafc Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Smiler13 said: A 34 year old crock who spends more time injured than actually playing. Good escape I would say. He was a great player but now is passed his best. Similar things were said about him when we were linked with him last summer. A good player in his day but too injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Smiler13 said: A 34 year old crock who spends more time injured than actually playing. Good escape I would say. He was a great player but now is passed his best. You seem to have an handle on the ability of players that is far beyond the norm, I'd say you are wasting your time knocking about on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzell54 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I think all our targets are too busy being involved with some tournament in Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, frizzell54 said: I think all our targets are too busy being involved with some tournament in Russia. very good that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Welsh, along with Neal Bishop, are the type of players who I believe would improve the squad we current have. Disciplined midfielders who sit in front of the back four and allow other players to create. The big issues being that Welsh has been injury prone in recent years and that we really don't know who will still be here by August, so it's hard to know who we'll be building the squad around! Can't say I'm gutted that we missed out on either player mentioned above, but we need to have experienced players in the right areas of the pitch in the coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Welsh, along with Neal Bishop, are the type of players who I believe would improve the squad we current have. Disciplined midfielders who sit in front of the back four and allow other players to create. It's League Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 tbf many of those moaning about missed targets to other clubs did the same thing last pre season over and over again about Bury. Nobody knows anything until it kicks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: It's League Two. You need holding midfielders at any level. Although I feel we've been here before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, welshgaz said: You need holding midfielders at any level. Although I feel we've been here before. They serve a purpose if you've got attacking talent further forward. If we haven't - like we didn't have last season, and the last several seasons - we'll suffer more from having a player (eg, Fane) who can't create and/or score than we would not having someone shielding the back four against shite League Two midfielders and forwards... A bad example but Gardner can pass a bit, carry the ball, create a bit, and tackle a bit, and may well produce BP1960's promised goals one day - we'd be better off with two Gardner's than a Gardner and a Fane/Welsh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Sounds like we need Greene back... Actually I think we might have done better with him playing towards the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 We have been linked with Tommy Spurr according to the Chron, although Sunderland seem to be the front runner... http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/157/latics/119913/athletic-linked-with-swoop-for-spurr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 But we didn’t pay preston .....who do we believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Isn't this just a rehash of the Nixon tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 There is absolutely zero sense in Spurr contemplating joining us if even a fraction of the bollocks the ITK's are spouting at the moment is remotely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 And Nixon is now saying it looks like Fleetwood have stepped in to the lead with a loan move for him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 13 hours ago, HarryBosch said: They serve a purpose if you've got attacking talent further forward. If we haven't - like we didn't have last season, and the last several seasons - we'll suffer more from having a player (eg, Fane) who can't create and/or score than we would not having someone shielding the back four against shite League Two midfielders and forwards... A bad example but Gardner can pass a bit, carry the ball, create a bit, and tackle a bit, and may well produce BP1960's promised goals one day - we'd be better off with two Gardner's than a Gardner and a Fane/Welsh.... Last season we scored 58 goals as many as Charlton who finished 6th and Plymouth who finished 7th, it was just 2 less than Shrewsbury who got to the play off final. We scored 9 goals more than Rochdale who finished above us and scored 27 goals more than the 2016-17 season where we finished a comfortable 17th. We went down because of the goals we shipped. We need a player who can win the ball like Fane could but take care of it better and sit infront of the back 4 and offer a shield. The other 3-4 midfielders around him need to be capable of both going forwards and contributing goals and pressing to win the ball back when we lose it. We also need 1 centre back 1 left back a wide man or 2 depending who goes and 2 strikers assuming Davies goes, and a goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: We need a player who can win the ball like Fane could but take care of it better and sit infront of the back 4 and offer a shield the other 3-4 midfielders around him need to be capable of both going forwards and contributing goals and pressing to win the ball back when we lose it. We also need 1 centre back 1 left back a wide man or 2 depending who goes and 2 strikers assuming Davies goes, and a goalkeeper. So just the 8 new players then...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 40 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: So just the 8 new players then...? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, TheBigDog said: So just the 8 new players then...? Yep the same kind of turnover we have most seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 hours ago, HarryBosch said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 hours ago, HarryBosch said: They serve a purpose if you've got attacking talent further forward. If we haven't - like we didn't have last season, and the last several seasons - we'll suffer more from having a player (eg, Fane) who can't create and/or score than we would not having someone shielding the back four against shite League Two midfielders and forwards... A bad example but Gardner can pass a bit, carry the ball, create a bit, and tackle a bit, and may well produce BP1960's promised goals one day - we'd be better off with two Gardner's than a Gardner and a Fane/Welsh.... Can I just say that Fane is not a holding midfielder, and absolutely not a disciplined midfielder. Fane was at his best when pressing and winning the ball higher up the pitch. Whenever I saw us play with him as the sitting midfielder we got torn to shreds. His positional sense was awful. We played Ollie Banks and Gardner as the deepest midfielders (neither of them could tackle well) when Fane played as time went on which says a lot about his positional discipline. Fane would be at his best in a central midfield 3, with a proper holding midfielder behind him to allow him to press with freedom and a Byrne/Baxter alongside him to negate his lack of ability to create. 2 Gardner's as a central midfield would be relegated from League Two. He isn't a good holding midfielder either and we'd get torn apart in the middle of the pitch with a like-minded player in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Last season we scored 58 goals as many as Charlton who finished 6th and Plymouth who finished 7th, it was just 2 less than Shrewsbury who got to the play off final. We scored 9 goals more than Rochdale who finished above us and scored 27 goals more than the 2016-17 season where we finished a comfortable 17th. We went down because of the goals we shipped. We need a player who can win the ball like Fane could but take care of it better and sit infront of the back 4 and offer a shield the other 3-4 midfielders around him need to be capable of both going forwards and contributing goals and pressing to win the ball back when we lose it. You made my point better than I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 11 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Last season we scored 58 goals as many as Charlton who finished 6th and Plymouth who finished 7th, it was just 2 less than Shrewsbury who got to the play off final. We scored 9 goals more than Rochdale who finished above us and scored 27 goals more than the 2016-17 season where we finished a comfortable 17th. We went down because of the goals we shipped. We need a player who can win the ball like Fane could but take care of it better and sit infront of the back 4 and offer a shield. The other 3-4 midfielders around him need to be capable of both going forwards and contributing goals and pressing to win the ball back when we lose it. We also need 1 centre back 1 left back a wide man or 2 depending who goes and 2 strikers assuming Davies goes, and a goalkeeper. Just to add to this btw the 75 goals we conceded last season was the clubs highest tally during the 21 years in league 1 passing the previous high of 73 goals conceded in the 2004-05 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, TheBigDog said: So just the 8 new players then...? 12 hours ago, Smiler13 said: 7 1 ballwinning midfielder 1 left back 2 wide men 1 centre back 2 strikers 1 goalkeeper That’s 8 isn’t it? ? picky? Me? Nah...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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