jorvik_latic Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Not sure that a neutral agreed with you means anything. Actually, I am... it means nowt. The vast majority there today that I’ve spoken to (actually everyone I’ve spoken to) thought he had a shocker. As he has a few times this season. Nah. People have their minds made up that he’s going to be our shit player this year and jump on everything he does. A neutral opinion means nothing? What a strange way to look at things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Hard to know really as generally your points just revolve around pointless disagreement. WUM. Whereas you spend most of your time trying to be a smartarse and usually failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Can we have a #peoplesvote about the #freejackbyrne campaign? I don't think people knew what they were hashtagging about the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Hes gone. He didn’t manage to “make a difference” in an awful lot of games last season either. He did a lot more than the players he has left behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, jorvik_latic said: Nah. People have their minds made up that he’s going to be our shit player this year and jump on everything he does. A neutral opinion means nothing? What a strange way to look at things What I meant was it is worth no more than anyone else’s opinion. I made my mind up he would be my shit player when he started playing shit... when he stops playing shit my mind might change. He needs a break to have a think imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Whereas you spend most of your time trying to be a smartarse and usually failing. Resort to insults, lose the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, deyres42 said: He did a lot more than the players he has left behind. Did he? Ok. If you say so. He also did more to wreck the dressing room and cause disharmony... but let’s let that slide. He’s gone. Get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Resort to insults, lose the debate. Like a typical smartarse you don't actually debate anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever blue Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 We LOST Get Over IT .BREXIT We WON get Over That Too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Did he? Ok. If you say so. He also did more to wreck the dressing room and cause disharmony... but let’s let that slide. He’s gone. Get over it. Any disharmony was caused by ordinary foreign players being brought in on big wages to sit in the stands. If I were a player busting my bollocks out on the pitch not knowing when my wages were being paid then I'd have been pissed off as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 33 minutes ago, deyres42 said: No player under contract moves anywhere unless the club is happy to allow it. Ok. I can think of loads but thought I would ask my children while we’re watching the England game. Straight away they rattled off umpteen names from some of the biggest clubs in Europe. They also mentioned Jack Byrne. No doubt you are right though. Generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Any disharmony was caused by ordinary foreign players being brought in on big wages to sit in the stands. If I were a player busting my bollocks out on the pitch not knowing when my wages were being paid then I'd have been pissed off as well. Boring. He’s gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Because on days like today he is a player who can make a difference, we don't have any of those in the current squad. How many differences did he make in the last 10 games of last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, forever blue said: We LOST Get Over IT .BREXIT We WON get Over That Too. We all lost in both. Some people still havent worked out they have lost because of Brexit yet but give it a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, GlossopLatic said: We all lost in both. Some people still havent worked out they have lost because of Brexit yet but give it a few months. With respect, (I voted remain) but nobody... and I mean nobody, knows how Brexit will pan out. The campaign of fear on both sides of the debate is mostly bollocks. It’s far more of a political scrap than an economic one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Ok. I can think of loads but thought I would ask my children while we’re watching the England game. Straight away they rattled off umpteen names from some of the biggest clubs in Europe. They also mentioned Jack Byrne. No doubt you are right though. Generally. Then the clubs were obviously happy enough to allow the player to go for whatever reason. A recent example, Jack Grealish wanted to go to Tottenham, Villa said he was staying, he stayed. Plenty more, at all levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: With respect, (I voted remain) but nobody... and I mean nobody, knows how Brexit will pan out. The campaign of fear on both sides of the debate is mostly bollocks. It’s far more of a political scrap than an economic one. It's very much a political scrap but one with huge economic consequences. Yet to hear a single credible argument from anyone in the leave camp. Not hard to find definitive evidence of ill effects from the dramatic slide in the currency to the demonstrable loss of jobs and a myriad of strongly negative possible outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: How many differences did he make in the last 10 games of last season? Is it only those games that count? Off the top of my head he scored vs Blackpool and changed the game vs Wimbledon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Like a typical smartarse you don't actually debate anything. I tend not to debate the specifics of games and players because I don't go to many games but I don't find it remotely challenging to debate wider principles because I have been around long enough to spot characteristics and circumstances that make conclusions based on the balance of probabilities reasonably straightforward to reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever blue Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 This Topic aint about Brexit. Start another thread if you want to debate this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's very much a political scrap but one with huge economic consequences. Yet to hear a single credible argument from anyone in the leave camp. Not hard to find definitive evidence of ill effects from the dramatic slide in the currency to the demonstrable loss of jobs and a myriad of strongly negative possible outcomes. A sliding pound is always a negative? Really. Demonstrable evidence of the loss of jobs? Really. Possible outcomes... yes, possible. Also possible positive outcomes. Like I said, I voted remain. Some others who voted remain have lost their minds recently. Anyhow. This is football. The person that brought Brexit into it should get a one week ban. Edited September 8, 2018 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, kowenicki said: What I meant was it is worth no more than anyone else’s opinion. I made my mind up he would be my shit player when he started playing shit... when he stops playing shit my mind might change. He needs a break to have a think imo. I don’t think he’s playing as badly as people are making out. I guess I’m in the minority as there are lots with the opinion that he’s shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, jorvik_latic said: I don’t think he’s playing as badly as people are making out. I guess I’m in the minority as there are lots with the opinion that he’s shit. Currently, yes. Not saying it can’t change. He looks lacking in confidence. Give him a rest I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: A sliding pound is always a negative? Really. Demonstrable evidence of the loss of jobs? Really. No, not always but dramatic slides almost always yes. Yes, plenty of functions in the City moving to Europe. Doubtless some jealous types will say good but they'd be well advised to see how much tax revenue comes from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, kowenicki said: With respect, (I voted remain) but nobody... and I mean nobody, knows how Brexit will pan out. The campaign of fear on both sides of the debate is mostly bollocks. It’s far more of a political scrap than an economic one. Knowone knows yet no but for that reason many people who claim that they won still cant tell people what they won 2 years down the line. Anyway back to the football I dont think Gardner was as bad as you say he was today although I wouldnt have him on set pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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