TheBigDog Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/1/2018 at 5:18 PM, Dave_Og said: Have you been to the Bernabeu? Great stadium it is not. Work on modernising Real Madrid's Santiago Bernabeu ground will begin before the end of the year. (Marca - in Spanish) They must read this forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 7:33 PM, mikeroyboy said: Your first sentence ‘It is important to look beyond April next year’, followed by a ‘believe’ a ‘could’, ‘it would’ ‘would’ and 2’if’s’ make your fear sound more like Cameron, Osborne and many others prophesizing immediate Armageddon if the electorate voted to leave the EU. An article in the Daily Mail today reports: ‘Clubs from Leagues One and Two are preparing to extend the Checkatrade Trophy in its present format for three more years’. It also states that there is ‘solid support within the EFL to develop the competition’, ‘clubs had seen crowds and gate receipts up owing to regionalization’. Also, ‘fears that the innovations might also provide a gateway for B teams into the football pyramid have proved unfounded’. There is other relevant stuff in the article by Matt Barlow, if you care to find it. Short term we are under far more threat from our players not being good enough, our management team not being good enough and our wealthy benefactor being an illusion. Not to mention every time we open shop some other bunch of guys are trying to ruin our product. My unique personal opinion on why B teams are unlikely to work or be accepted is the problem it creates with promotion and relegation. Every season half the Premiership is in real danger of being relegated before the season starts. The same goes for the Championship. High rollers regularly visit League 1. No way will these guys be putting themselves at risk to swapping places with a B team, however unlikely it may seem. Regular League football for groups of very talented kids - heaven help us all. Oh look, a Prem team Executive wants to put B teams back on the Agenda. This time, to get round the upcoming FIFA ruling in 2020 that clubs will only be able to loan a max of 8 players over 21. (money or lack of a neat promotion or relegation situation is a no brainer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 1:43 PM, oldhamoafc said: Still confuses why people push the whole B teams in the football league. It literally won’t happen, ever. No evidence that the big teams even want it to happen never mind everything else. Ridiculous argument. A Prem team Executive has started the briefing to put B Teams back on the agenda (has never been off it) to circumvent the 2020 Fifa max 8nover 21 loans out ruling. Of course there is evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 10 hours ago, singe said: Oh look, a Prem team Executive wants to put B teams back on the Agenda. This time, to get round the upcoming FIFA ruling in 2020 that clubs will only be able to loan a max of 8 players over 21. (money or lack of a neat promotion or relegation situation is a no brainer) A Premier League Executive ‘wanting ’ to put B teams back on the agenda is a long way from the Football League. Meanwhile, our skint clubs go along with a chance of a decent payday. The fans in general are also going along with what has always been a poorly supported Competition. There is no reliable way to judge whether a ‘supposed’ boycott is affecting attendances. There was certainly no evidence in our recent game with Barnsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: A Premier League Executive ‘wanting ’ to put B teams back on the agenda is a long way from the Football League. Meanwhile, our skint clubs go along with a chance of a decent payday. The fans in general are also going along with what has always been a poorly supported Competition. There is no reliable way to judge whether a ‘supposed’ boycott is affecting attendances. There was certainly no evidence in our recent game with Barnsley Walsall broke their record for lowest ever attendance last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: A Premier League Executive ‘wanting ’ to put B teams back on the agenda is a long way from the Football League. Meanwhile, our skint clubs go along with a chance of a decent payday. The fans in general are also going along with what has always been a poorly supported Competition. There is no reliable way to judge whether a ‘supposed’ boycott is affecting attendances. There was certainly no evidence in our recent game with Barnsley Oh dear you are really not getting this are you their is no decent payday at all in this. Then if you read the Daily Mail..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Walsall broke their record for lowest ever attendance last night... Also Lowest ever crowd at Oxford U Lowest ever crowd at Port Vale Lowest crowd since 1970 at Cambridge U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, singe said: Also Lowest ever crowd at Oxford U Lowest ever crowd at Port Vale Lowest crowd since 1970 at Cambridge U That is evidence of crap competition. With which I totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 But the FA/EFL/Premier League don’t give a fuck whether people attend the competition or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 minute ago, mikeroyboy said: That is evidence of crap competition. With which I totally agree. So int he tournament as a whole, are the significant drops in attendance since B Teams were introduced evidence of a boycott, or apathy? Obviosuly both, but I say a significant boycott, because the B TEams have specifically lower attendances. The attendances v Barnseley was still majorly shit. 1,343 Latics fans. 2/3rds stayed away. Of course there was a significant boycott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, maddog said: But the FA/EFL/Premier League don’t give a fuck whether people attend the competition or not. I believe there is concern, mainly because we'd already have B Team without the boycott. I still think they'll push, but rely on people giving up and drifting back. As is typical of many campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Oh dear you are really not getting this are you their is no decent payday at all in this. Then if you read the Daily Mail..... What I’m getting is the Clubs are agreeing to play in a generally loss making competition. Which while we are at it also relates to all competitions most League clubs will play in this season. I am familiar with profit and loss accounts but even so, like you, I have no idea how to realistically put a profitable projection forward for a Proffesional Football League Club. If you can really see a way forward with our and other clubs relationship with the Checkatrades association with the Premiership I wish you good luck. I suspect however your best efforts are being directed at me for supporting my club unconditionally because I am totally unable to do better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, singe said: So int he tournament as a whole, are the significant drops in attendance since B Teams were introduced evidence of a boycott, or apathy? Obviosuly both, but I say a significant boycott, because the B TEams have specifically lower attendances. The attendances v Barnseley was still majorly shit. 1,343 Latics fans. 2/3rds stayed away. Of course there was a significant boycott. I like how you do a double shuffle with the figures. You should be comparing the 1,343 with the first tournament game at BP of 2yrs ago. If you could do that you would have a valid point. I also like how you omit the total attendance for the Barnsley game, around 400 from Barnsley wasn’t it? That’s not bad for a boycott in a crap Competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: What I’m getting is the Clubs are agreeing to play in a generally loss making competition. Which while we are at it also relates to all competitions most League clubs will play in this season. I am familiar with profit and loss accounts but even so, like you, I have no idea how to realistically put a profitable projection forward for a Proffesional Football League Club. If you can really see a way forward with our and other clubs relationship with the Checkatrades association with the Premiership I wish you good luck. I suspect however your best efforts are being directed at me for supporting my club unconditionally because I am totally unable to do better myself. This is the crux for me MRB. I'm not sure it is loss making since the B Team sere allowed in because the PREm team paid for an increase in prize money including the early, otherwise loss making, rounds. And therefore, if the (vastly rich!!!) offered even a sweetish deal, in the 100k's, enough FL Chairman will take a risk and capitulate Tommorows papers show the Prem stranglehold could deepen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: I like how you do a double shuffle with the figures. You should be comparing the 1,343 with the first tournament game at BP of 2yrs ago. If you could do that you would have a valid point. I also like how you omit the total attendance for the Barnsley game, around 400 from Barnsley wasn’t it? That’s not bad for a boycott in a crap Competition. One game v one game does not really prove anything for either of us. I didnt bring up Barnsley specifically, I just replied to the point. And yes, 443 when last time they bought 583 does not prove a boycott. I never said it was a full boycott, but significant across the tournament as a whole. Who could have predicted Barnsely, a town of miners, would be scabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 8 hours ago, mikeroyboy said: A Premier League Executive ‘wanting ’ to put B teams back on the agenda is a long way from the Football League. Meanwhile, our skint clubs go along with a chance of a decent payday. The fans in general are also going along with what has always been a poorly supported Competition. There is no reliable way to judge whether a ‘supposed’ boycott is affecting attendances. There was certainly no evidence in our recent game with Barnsley How can people type such bullshit and actually believe they make sense to normal people?? Wowzers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 14 hours ago, maddog said: But the FA/EFL/Premier League don’t give a fuck whether people attend the competition or not. This is true, but they need the club's to care about it enough to try, otherwise their youth/reserves might as well just play training games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I think they should have their B Team in PL2..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Monty Burns said: How can people type such bullshit and actually believe they make sense to normal people?? Wowzers. It helps if you’re not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics59 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Anyone know when the draw for round 2 is? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, latics59 said: Anyone give two squirts of piss as to when the draw for round 2 is? thanks FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 hours ago, latics59 said: Anyone know when the draw for round 2 is? thanks Don't think the final round of games is till next week, so probably after them - on soccer am usually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 12 hours ago, latics59 said: Anyone know when the draw for round 2 is? thanks There’s quite a few games on Tuesday and Wednesday next week, so you’d think the draw will be after those games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Huge game for us tonight. Fingers crossed Bradford get win which would enable us to top the group and get an easier draw in the last 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, oafcshuck said: Huge game for us tonight. Fingers crossed Bradford get win which would enable us to top the group and get an easier draw in the last 32. Come on shuck, this cup is bobbins! I’m sure she’s didn’t care about this. Although he did win it.... I see where your going with this. Come on Bradford !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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