fleetwood Blue Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: So I take it that you didn’t go yesterday? Whereas I agree that quality is in short supply, there was desire and fight at Stevenage. And where you get your ‘team of yes men’ from only you can say. In patches we played very well yesterday, but we continue to miss too many opportunities and defensively we are short of experience. Whatever happens with Bunn, we will be stuck with the majority of the current squad. Would a new manager get them playing better? Possibly. As for this going on for years, the vocal lads yesterday gave an amusing but telling rendition of ‘Premier League and we f**@#d it up!’ that continued down through the leagues ending with ‘League 2 and we’re f**@ing’ it up!’ No i didnt go yesterday and so i can only comment on what i have witnessed myself this season, in 35 years of supporting the latics this has to be the most downbeat ive ever felt as a fan and I’m hoping things get changed sooner rather than later.. It has come to the point sadly where it has now become a chore to get in my car and travel the 60 miles to watch a home game and the shite that is being served up week in and week out...Sorry to sound so grumpy but unless we get rid of clueless frank and we find an owner who is actually a fan or at least understands what running a club entails then we are only going one way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We are 17th in League 2, something needs to change, and quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 hours ago, Londonboy said: What most are saying on here is hard to argue against. However we can change the manager... but not the owner.... not easily anyway. All im saying is roll the dice and we may get lucky. I think Bunn should go because, by sacking Rhodes, AL made his position untenable. He's done himself no favours with the style of play, I could understand it for the first 10 games to get us settled but it really doesn't look like he can kick us on any further than that, regardless of the off field problems. But I disagree that we should sack him as a roll of the dice. There's enough uncertainty around the club as it is that another roll of the dice is way more likely to have disastrous consequences than positive ones. As bad as things are, things could get a lot worse if we make the wrong decisions in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I think Bunn should go because, by sacking Rhodes, AL made his position untenable. He's done himself no favours with the style of play, I could understand it for the first 10 games to get us settled but it really doesn't look like he can kick us on any further than that, regardless of the off field problems. But I disagree that we should sack him as a roll of the dice. There's enough uncertainty around the club as it is that another roll of the dice is way more likely to have disastrous consequences than positive ones. As bad as things are, things could get a lot worse if we make the wrong decisions in the near future. You can't use yesterday's game as a valid reason to sack him based on the style of play. He played two up front, we played very much on the front foot, we had clear cut chances to score at least three more...and then it all fell apart. I've only seen three games during which we have scored eight so although I know I was lucky to miss Mansfield, and many others I can't see that this boring tag is entirely fair. Edited November 4, 2018 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 28 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: We are 17th in League 2, something needs to change, and quickly We are probably where we should be, it is more the manner of how we have got there and the lack of hope that it will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I think Bunn should go because, by sacking Rhodes, AL made his position untenable. He's done himself no favours with the style of play, I could understand it for the first 10 games to get us settled but it really doesn't look like he can kick us on any further than that, regardless of the off field problems. But I disagree that we should sack him as a roll of the dice. There's enough uncertainty around the club as it is that another roll of the dice is way more likely to have disastrous consequences than positive ones. As bad as things are, things could get a lot worse if we make the wrong decisions in the near future. We’ve been making the wrong decisions for over 20 years!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, fleetwood Blue said: It has come to the point sadly where it has now become a chore to get in my car and travel the 60 miles to watch a home game and the shite that is being served up week in and week out... I’ll see your 60 and raise you an additional 130 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. And that would be me not renewing my season ticket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I see your additional 130 and raise you daylight savings which means games now kick off at 1am. Its bad enough that I am zombiefied for most of Sunday without the tactical bizarreness that is going on at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. I would be willing to endure that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, L1onheartNew said: I would be willing to endure that. I have no dislike for Clarke but it is groundhog day yet again,the club needs an experienced manager. This place is at the moment possibly the worst on earth to cut your managerial teeth, we have been down the rookie road endless times already and that was without a maniacal owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. Unbelievable another manager with no experience / cheap option it does does does does not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Are people really willing to risk another cheap option with no experience just for the sake of getting Bunn out? One bad run of games over the Christmas period due to this gamble and it’s Bromley and Borehamwood away next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 If Clarke is appointed his first order of business must be to sign another experienced centre-half. Whilst I understand he has been poor, we were an awful lot poorer when he wasn't fit earlier in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) As bad as Clarke has been so far this season, Sam Graham at the back for the next 30 games doesn’t bear thinking about... Edited November 4, 2018 by Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How about Clarke with an experienced assistant such as a "Brian Horton" but definitely not a "Tommy Wright"? Someone who has been at a high level and still enjoys the game (mind you, Boundary Park could kill off any enthusiasm). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. Not for me. Bad idea. Very very bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Dave Challinor or Jim Bentley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 53 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. He was offered it the day we sacked Wellens and turned it down. That was from the horses mouth. The only reason I would imagine he has changed his mind is cos he's realised he's finished as a footballer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: He was offered it the day we sacked Wellens and turned it down. That was from the horses mouth. The only reason I would imagine he has changed his mind is cos he's realised he's finished as a footballer... Sheridan turned it down at least three times before he finally took it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 We’re just going from one train wreck to the next. Under normal circumstances Peter Clarke could turn out to be a good choice but these are not normal circumstances.... FFS how many more times are we going to go down this route!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 To be fair it is probably a decent time for a rookie to take it, no real expectations for going up or down so there is time to implement your ideas looking around to next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: He was offered it the day we sacked Wellens and turned it down. That was from the horses mouth. The only reason I would imagine he has changed his mind is cos he's realised he's finished as a footballer... Legs had gone last season imho Lee surprised he has played this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: Alan Nixon OLDHAM. Peter Clarke will get the first call if Frankie Bunn goes at any point. Clarke has the makings of being a good manager in the future, but he would be completely the wrong choice to replace Bunn at this stage. I thought sacking Wellens and appointing Bunn was the right call, but sacking Bunn replacing him with a different first time coach/manager 3 months into the season would make it a pointless decision. A change now would have to be an obviously positive one. Clarke wouldn't be that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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