stevesidg Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Nohairdontcare said: Nothing of major interest in that interview - that I’m guessing was a highly sensitive up yours from AL to the Chron. Or a cunning move by the RRC to get him to speak to someone even if it wasn’t them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, rudemedic said: Yep. Would agree. However you might not find many owners/chairpeople watching training. Not a betting man BUT I'd say more do than don't at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) On 11/19/2018 at 12:54 PM, oafcmetty said: I've heard tales of briefcases full of cash being hard to explain at Mcr airport Beats a briefcase of cash coming up from London via Train approx this time last season I suppose, better transport Edited November 20, 2018 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 hour ago, underdog said: Beats a briefcase of cash coming up from London via Train approx this time last season I suppose, better transport ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, latics22 said: ? It happened under the last owner Edited November 20, 2018 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 16 hours ago, underdog said: It happened under the last owner What for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 hours ago, latics22 said: What for? The bills and some people's wages. There was a post about it if I remember rightly, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 7:42 PM, underdog said: Beats a briefcase of cash coming up from London via Train approx this time last season I suppose, better transport Heard a story yesterday morning from a Swansea fan, and I've no reason to believe it isn't true. When they were in financial trouble and a new buyer was found, £50K was needed in something of a hurry. The fifty grand was delivered just in time. In cash. In a Tesco carrier bag. Not even in a briefcase. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Remember that time Corney was photographed by a fan depositing “his own” cash in the club’s bank account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said: Remember that time Corney was photographed by a fan depositing “his own” cash in the club’s bank account Remember it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 15 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: Remember that time Corney was photographed by a fan depositing “his own” cash in the club’s bank account And that some staff..maybe casual staff had been paid in cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 4:41 PM, Lags said: Not a betting man BUT I'd say more do than don't at some point. iirc tranmeres chairman used to actually take part in training sessions in goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) On 11/18/2018 at 12:38 PM, deyres42 said: The academy is crucial but Philliskirk is sacked without mention? On 11/18/2018 at 2:11 PM, underdog said: Unless I missed it Philliskirk was not sacked? have I missed it? On 11/18/2018 at 2:41 PM, kowenicki said: Philliskirk sacked? Since when? Humour me. On the 17th April this year, the following statement appeared on the Fishul, “Academy Manager Tony Philliskirk has been suspended with immediate effect, pending the outcome of a club investigation. The club will be making no further comment on the matter.” Contrary to popular opinion, there is no mention of the FA, or any representative body - that’s not to say they haven’t been involved. It reads as an in house investigation only. If he is found guilty of something that brings about his dismissal, would it be fair and reasonable for us to expect to know / understand why, given his long association with the club and the fondness with which he is held by so many for personal and professional reasons? Edited November 30, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 IMO the poor treatment of TP should be generating more anger than it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: IMO the poor treatment of TP should be generating more anger than it has. I think most - myself included - are reserving judgment until the outcome of investigation(s) are concluded..... otherwise it’s difficult to judge whether his treatment is poor, or otherwise. But humour me.... let’s say he is sacked by the club. Would you want to know why? Or will a two sentence announcement with no further comment be acceptable? Edited November 30, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Humour me. On the 17th April this year, the following statement appeared on the Fishul, “Academy Manager Tony Philliskirk has been suspended with immediate effect, pending the outcome of a club investigation. The club will be making no further comment on the matter.” Contrary to popular opinion, there is no mention of the FA, or any representative body - that’s not to say they haven’t been involved. It reads as an in house investigation only. If he is found guilty of something that brings about his dismissal, would it fair and reasonable for us to expect to know / understand why, given his long association with the club and the fondness with which he is held by so many for personal and professional reasons? It’s now been over seven months and we have heard no further update from the club. I think that this is disgraceful. It must be something really bad if the investigation is still ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I think most - myself included - are reserving judgment until the outcome of investigation(s) are concluded..... otherwise it’s difficult to judge whether his treatment is poor, or otherwise. But humour me.... let’s say he is sacked by the club. Would you want to know why? Or will a two sentence announcement with no further comment be enough? I wanted to know why the very second the suspension was announced, there has been no dulling of this curiosity in the seven months it has dragged on. Can’t see him coming back after so long away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBigDog said: It’s now been over seven months and we have heard no further update from the club. I think that this is disgraceful. It must be something really bad if the investigation is still ongoing. You can’t say it’s disgraceful or otherwise without knowing what it is - but I agree that the length of time it’s taken suggests the matter has been taken seriously. Therefore, in the event he was found guilty of something and subsequently dismissed, one assumes you would wish to know why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: I wanted to know why the very second the suspension was announced, there has been no dulling of this curiosity in the seven months it has dragged on. Can’t see him coming back after so long away. To be fair to the club, the FA, Tony & any other 3rd party or parties involved, it wouldn’t be proper to be divulging details until investigation(s) had concluded. Like @TheBigDog however, I assume you would wish to have some explanation in the event it was confirmed he had been dismissed. Edited November 30, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: To be fair to the club, the FA, Tony & any other 3rd party or parties involved, it wouldn’t be proper to be divulging details until investigation(s) had conclude. Like @TheBigDog however, I assume you would wish to have some explanation in the event it was confirmed he had been dismissed. I did think that was what l had already said, but, yes. Yes l do/will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: It’s now been over seven months and we have heard no further update from the club. I think that this is disgraceful. It must be something really bad if the investigation is still ongoing. It might not be that bad. In many ways if it was something for gross misconduct that is easily proven then the investigation would likely be over by now. However, a 'bullying' he said - (s)he said issue may take a lot longer to investigate. Especially given the number of staff members who have left since then. If TP is found innocent / not proven of all or most of the charges he may well still be free to return. However, whether he would want to is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 9:53 AM, rudemedic said: It might not be that bad. In many ways if it was something for gross misconduct that is easily proven then the investigation would likely be over by now. However, a 'bullying' he said - (s)he said issue may take a lot longer to investigate. Especially given the number of staff members who have left since then. If TP is found innocent / not proven of all or most of the charges he may well still be free to return. However, whether he would want to is another matter. How would people feel if TP turned up elsewhere in employment in the meantime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: How would people feel if TP turned up elsewhere in employment in the meantime? I'd be disappointed as it would perhaps give more rise to his guilt and he has been a Latics stalwart for ages so to see him leave would be akin to a player who had been at the club for ages leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, rudemedic said: I'd be disappointed as it would perhaps give more rise to his guilt and he has been a Latics stalwart for ages so to see him leave would be akin to a player who had been at the club for ages leave. ...but wouldn't him turning up elsewhere indicate he'd be cleared of any wrongdoing, hence he was being employed again.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: ...but wouldn't him turning up elsewhere indicate he'd be cleared of any wrongdoing, hence he was being employed again.....? No. Not in my view. People sacked for bullying unless they are sanctioned by a governing body are often employed elsewhere. Football never strikes me as an area where someone sacked for misconduct is unemployable again afterwards, look at Montano etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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