rudemedic Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: This is the coaching staff about a month or so ago. https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/teams/first-team-staff/ At least half of them are off the wage bill and all we've added to that is some bloke called Hale, who I'd never previously heard of. Wild would struggle with experience around him but the situation at the moment is a farce, by his own admission he's not ready for it and we shouldn't let a couple of results influence a decision going forward, we need to do what's best for the club and for me appointing Wild the cheap option would be a huge mistake. When you check up on Hale he is a GK coach with a fair amount of experience in that role. He also seemingly runs his own GK school. I actually think he has done a better job in that role than Rhodes. You haven't heard of him because he seemingly hasn't played professionally. Hale has all the right qualifications bar that one, which isn't a qualification at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLatics Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, rudemedic said: When you check up on Hale he is a GK coach with a fair amount of experience in that role. He also seemingly runs his own GK school. I actually think he has done a better job in that role than Rhodes. You haven't heard of him because he seemingly hasn't played professionally. Hale has all the right qualifications bar that one, which isn't a qualification at all. Spot on. Their problem is that they hasn't played 500 professional games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: I actually think he has done a better job in that role than Rhodes. How are we measuring that then, just out of interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: How are we measuring that then, just out of interest? Daniel Iversen’s penalty saves. Iversen at the start of the season said he wasn’t researching penalties, but after Fulham said he had been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Which one are you then? The cleaner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, LaticMark said: That would suggest that PW is going to be in charge for atleast the Macc town game. If waiting a week or 2 means we make the right decision then thats fine the decision taken now will effect the club over the next 2-3 years maybe more. So Id rather just leave Wild in charge for a week or 2 longer if it means we get a man in charge who is right for the club and that AL is going to trust and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogghead1 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Pete wild now 1/6 on skybet. Someone know something we don’t??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, wogghead1 said: Pete wild now 1/6 on skybet. Someone know something we don’t??? Based on the rumour mill/journalist he's guaranteed to be halfway to SkyBet paying out- after 10 games. AL has less than a month to find a replacement, slightly less if we draw at Donny due to when the replay would be. 10 games since he took over is the game against Yeovil 12/2/19. A Donny replay makes the game against Crawley the magic game. That's why even when the temporary replacement is not well fancied it is often very good value. Philliskirk went 9 games before Johnson was appointed (helped by a replay and some rearranged games). Skybet were due to payout after the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Seems pretty nailed on for it now, everybody else is drifting well out Pete Wild 1/6 John Askey 8/1 Paul Scholes 10/1 Peter Clarke 10/1 Steven Pressley 16/1 Paul Heckingbottom 22/1 Darren Ferguson 25/1 Jacques Santini 25/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, fleetwood Blue said: Seems pretty nailed on for it now, everybody else is drifting well out Pete Wild 1/6 John Askey 8/1 Paul Scholes 10/1 Peter Clarke 10/1 Steven Pressley 16/1 Paul Heckingbottom 22/1 Darren Ferguson 25/1 Jacques Santini 25/1 Depressing and will end in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Depressing and will end in tears. They all end in tears eventually so hardly very prescient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 hours ago, rudemedic said: Based on the rumour mill/journalist he's guaranteed to be halfway to SkyBet paying out- after 10 games. AL has less than a month to find a replacement, slightly less if we draw at Donny due to when the replay would be. 10 games since he took over is the game against Yeovil 12/2/19. A Donny replay makes the game against Crawley the magic game. That's why even when the temporary replacement is not well fancied it is often very good value. Philliskirk went 9 games before Johnson was appointed (helped by a replay and some rearranged games). Skybet were due to payout after the next one. I don't think the potential replay with Donny makes any difference, we have the rearranged league game with the Dongs already scheduled in for that Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: I don't think the potential replay with Donny makes any difference, we have the rearranged league game with the Dongs already scheduled in for that Tuesday. A replay with Donny will be the Tuesday after (10 days after original tie). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, rudemedic said: A replay with Donny will be the Tuesday after (10 days after original tie). Fair enough. I've not looked at the dates, it's what the ticket office told me when I picked up my Macc tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 20 hours ago, Paul said: Yes Caretaker Manager - Pete Wild - A Licence Coach - Chris Millington - A Licence Goalkeeping Coach - Steve Hale - A Licence Fitness Coach - Stuart Vance Physio - Stuart Irwin Pete Wild is going to have Pete Wild as part of his coaching team? Delegating tasks to himself? Hmm. Adding the physio to make your coaching team list look bigger? Lame. If we appointed an actual manager and he brought an assistant, with the above people chipping in then that would be a team. Three people is stretching the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: Pete Wild is going to have Pete Wild as part of his coaching team? Delegating tasks to himself? Hmm. Adding the physio to make your coaching team list look bigger? Lame. If we appointed an actual manager and he brought an assistant, with the above people chipping in then that would be a team. Three people is stretching the term. How many do you need!? Manager and Coach (or Assistant or whatever you want to name him) coach the team and tactics, GK coach takes goalkeepers and Physio and Fitness coach look after fitness and health of the players. Not sure what else is really needed at league two level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paul said: How many do you need!? Manager and Coach (or Assistant or whatever you want to name him) coach the team and tactics, GK coach takes goalkeepers and Physio and Fitness coach look after fitness and health of the players. Not sure what else is really needed at league two level. I manage a sunday team and I’ve got three, so if I was at div4 level I’d say five or six would be about right. Basically so l don’t have to actually do anything myself!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: I manage a sunday team and I’ve got three, so if I was at div4 level I’d say five or six would be about right. Basically so l don’t have to actually do anything myself!! “Too many cooks”........... If you look on most league two or even league one club websites I think you’ll find most have Manager, Assistant, GK coach then the medical/fitness staff. A few may have a first team coach as well but not many. We are league two with a limited budget so I think what we have is about right, I’d like to see money spent on players on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 In all honesty although it's not a prerequisite who'd actually heard of either Wild, Millington and Hale a month ago? It would be a massive leap of faith to install three effective nobodies within the game and following the first couple of defeats the lack of experience will be dragged out time and time again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paul said: “Too many cooks”........... If you look on most league two or even league one club websites I think you’ll find most have Manager, Assistant, GK coach then the medical/fitness staff. A few may have a first team coach as well but not many. We are league two with a limited budget so I think what we have is about right, I’d like to see money spent on players on the pitch I know. But you still included Pete Wild as part of Pete Wilds potential coaching team, that’s all l was picking up on tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Depressing and will end in tears. The new manager is almost guaranteed to not be from that list. It never is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: I know. But you still included Pete Wild as part of Pete Wilds potential coaching team, that’s all l was picking up on tbh. Yes because he is a coach as many managers are. You may get some managers who like to just manage and let a coach coach, you also get managers who like to do a good proportion of the coaching themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 OK Paul, crack on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: In all honesty although it's not a prerequisite who'd actually heard of either Wild, Millington and Hale a month ago? It would be a massive leap of faith to install three effective nobodies within the game and following the first couple of defeats the lack of experience will be dragged out time and time again. Bet Lemsagam can't believe his luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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