GlossopLatic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 8 hours ago, nzlatic said: How does this rule stop the ‘best person’ getting the job? What’s the down side to it? Ofcourse it doesn't stop the best person getting the job people are just paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Ofcourse it doesn't stop the best person getting the job people are just paranoid. Such a bizarre thing to get angry about. How can we try to address the shocking under representation of minorities in coaching/management? Make sure the door is open? Nooooo, political correctness gone mad!!!! Lefty liberals ruining it for everyone!!! It’s a shameful attitude and very much part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 8 hours ago, UsedtobeWozzer said: Not helping your point by use of the word “coloured” there given its South African apartheid connotations. Not that you’ll care like. Wrong, it’s actually still an acceptable term in South Africa and means mixed race. The negative connotations come from elsewhere (probably USA). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloureds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: Such a bizarre thing to get angry about. How can we try to address the shocking under representation of minorities in coaching/management? Make sure the door is open? Nooooo, political correctness gone mad!!!! Lefty liberals ruining it for everyone!!! It’s a shameful attitude and very much part of the problem. Thats not just making sure the door is open... Its pushing people through the door. A club needs a manager and on day 1 interviews someone and thinks that's our guy... They now have to interview a BAME or they can't make the hire. Whose to say he doesn't go anywhere else whilst they're waiting for a BAME applicant? What if there aren't any? The football league going to verify this? Do they interview someone knowing they arent going to offer the job? Isn't that worse for the candidate.... Being the token gesture? Im all for equality but this fixes nothing. If you've got a fundamental racist chairmen they run one through the system and the BAME candidate fails... If the chairman isn racist, they will pick the best person for the job with or without the rule... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fruitygoo said: Thats not just making sure the door is open... Its pushing people through the door. A club needs a manager and on day 1 interviews someone and thinks that's our guy... They now have to interview a BAME or they can't make the hire. Whose to say he doesn't go anywhere else whilst they're waiting for a BAME applicant? What if there aren't any? The football league going to verify this? Do they interview someone knowing they arent going to offer the job? Isn't that worse for the candidate.... Being the token gesture? Im all for equality but this fixes nothing. If you've got a fundamental racist chairmen they run one through the system and the BAME candidate fails... If the chairman isn racist, they will pick the best person for the job with or without the rule... Im pretty sure that they won't have to interview a BAME candidate if their are no applicants aslong as abit of common sense is applied it's fine. This has already been voluntarily introduced by clubs over the last 18 months aslong as feedback has been taken on board by the EFL then thats fine. Edited June 8, 2019 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, nzlatic said: Such a bizarre thing to get angry about. How can we try to address the shocking under representation of minorities in coaching/management? Make sure the door is open? Nooooo, political correctness gone mad!!!! Lefty liberals ruining it for everyone!!! It’s a shameful attitude and very much part of the problem. Removed - inappropriate for a football board - my apologies Edited June 8, 2019 by wiseowl not suitable for a football board - off topic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 So with just over two weeks until pre season and no manager and backroom staff appointed does anyone know who might take the training for the existing players as with Wild gone as well who steps up now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Instead of focussing on the job and strategic issues, you spent about 50% of your time managing "people issues" because you were forever recruiting temps whilst women went and had babies (and often didn't come back). There are a few issues I have with your post, but the bit I’ve quoted, what the fuck sort of attitude is that to have? This is a good example of why discrimination laws are needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Paul said: So with just over two weeks until pre season and no manager and backroom staff appointed does anyone know who might take the training for the existing players as with Wild gone as well who steps up now? Can we get back on topic please. It’s all about Wiseowl making every topic and thread about himself and his experiences.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 10 hours ago, UsedtobeWozzer said: Not helping your point by use of the word “coloured” there given its South African apartheid connotations. Not that you’ll care like. The point was a racist chairman will look at it that way. Not my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Can we get back on topic please. It’s all about Wiseowl making every topic and thread about himself and his experiences.... All hail the self proclaimed one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) I’m not racist, two of my best wives were coloureds. Edited June 8, 2019 by Monty Burns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, wiseowl said: Removed - inappropriate for a football board - my apologies Inappropriate for a football board Inappropriate full stop you mean. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 21 hours ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Is he even trying to get anyone in Is he struggling to get someone in? Wouldn't surprise me after all the great publicity we've had this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 hours ago, True Tic said: Is he struggling to get someone in? Wouldn't surprise me after all the great publicity we've had this season didnt we have 30+ applicants according to nixon ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, peanuts said: didnt we have 30+ applicants according to nixon ? It was 2 at the time you would normally have had 20 or 30! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, mick26 said: It was 2 at the time you would normally have had 20 or 30! And one of those has (thankfully) gone to manage at the dizzy heights of the National League North with the mighty Blyth Spartans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 17 hours ago, peanuts said: didnt we have 30+ applicants according to nixon ? I suppose it depends on who they were. I know he has mentioned about getting the right man in, taking time etc, but he took an age getting Scholes in and look what happened there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Yannick Ferrera now 11/10 favourite with Sky Bet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Ferrera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, LaticMark said: Yannick Ferrera now 11/10 favourite with Sky Bet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Ferrera Quote 'he was sacked early into the 2016–17 season due to disputes with the board of directors' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 The list of potentials just gets better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 jobs in 6 years...perfick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, LaticMark said: Yannick Ferrera now 11/10 favourite with Sky Bet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Ferrera Is this some bizzarre sort of managerial rhyming slang game? Ferrera, Herera, Correa...….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Is this some bizzarre sort of managerial rhyming slang game? Ferrera, Herera, Correa...….. Not a very inspiring list, is it? And there's a Pereira further down. Edited June 9, 2019 by Bristolatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bristolatic said: Not a very inspiring list, is it? And there's a Pereira further down. Also Dino Maamria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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