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42 minutes ago, archiecat said:

Ps,don't disregard the potential volatility of this particular owner/manager relationship.

You are a smart operator Max,you know the chances of this going wrong are high.

That said,if you don't buy a ticket,you don't win the raffle.

Nothing in football lasts long these days.

I don't know how old you are or how long you have watched latics. 

I have watched since 1976, Others longer than me.

Other than the Royle era and the odd cup upset its been pretty pants.

If you weren't witness to the Royle era i can tell you it was fantastic. 

I feel for the younger fan and sort of understand were you are coming from.

So onto now, any chance of something big, we should grasp because it might be a long time before something similar comes along, if ever.

If it doesn't work, so what, at least we gave it a shot.

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2 hours ago, archiecat said:

Yeah, he has quite an understanding of events unfolding at BP,you could learn a lot from that young man and a few more of his ilk Peter!

Honoured

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1 hour ago, maximus1267 said:

Nothing in football lasts long these days.

I don't know how old you are or how long you have watched latics. 

I have watched since 1976, Others longer than me.

Other than the Royle era and the odd cup upset its been pretty pants.

If you weren't witness to the Royle era i can tell you it was fantastic. 

I feel for the younger fan and sort of understand were you are coming from.

So onto now, any chance of something big, we should grasp because it might be a long time before something similar comes along, if ever.

If it doesn't work, so what, at least we gave it a shot.

I saw the end of the royle years, it wasn’t fun. Since then it’s been a downward depressing spiral! Your last point is true, let’s at least try. Let’s face it, it can’t get any worse ! Literally it can’t, even going down again is almost cert if we don’t try and stop the rot

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19 minutes ago, laticsmarra said:

I take it you've become an honorary Marra living up there

Oh yes.... but I'll ever forget my roots 

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14 hours ago, steveecky said:

I’m struggling to understand this apparent blind optimism that a manager who is not yet confirmed will transform the club’s fortune despite having no pedigree as a coach, let alone as a manager.  If PS takes the job I wish only the best for him and the club as a fan, I’m just more cautious. And as for the apparent cost of the appointment, if true it’s ludicrous ! If there’s that amount of money available then it could be spent on better players who could produce results on the pitch.

You mean players like Menig with pedigree? Who was on a reported 11k a week but you'd begrudge paying one of the highest profile ex-players in the country the going rate?

 

Part of the problem this club has had particularly in our relegation season was the tail wagging the dog, players on 5, 6, 8 or 10k holding all the power, controlling the dressing room and dictating which direction the club goes in, all whilst a succession of managers on £800 a week lose the dressing room, what other walk of life sees the manager on a 10nth of one of his subordinates earn?

 

I know some of the problems from last season are down to AL's controlling manner something he promised he'd change but the only way I can see an end to some of this behaviour is by appointing a coach of Scholes standing, under this chairman it's the only hope and Scholes has to be given complete control over the playing side of the club if we've got any chance of moving forward. 

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1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

You mean players like Menig with pedigree? Who was on a reported 11k a week but you'd begrudge paying one of the highest profile ex-players in the country the going rate?

 

Part of the problem this club has had particularly in our relegation season was the tail wagging the dog, players on 5, 6, 8 or 10k holding all the power, controlling the dressing room and dictating which direction the club goes in, all whilst a succession of managers on £800 a week lose the dressing room, what other walk of life sees the manager on a 10nth of one of his subordinates earn?

 

I know some of the problems from last season are down to AL's controlling manner something he promised he'd change but the only way I can see an end to some of this behaviour is by appointing a coach of Scholes standing, under this chairman it's the only hope and Scholes has to be given complete control over the playing side of the club if we've got any chance of moving forward. 

 

Even if he gives him complete control of picking the team I would be amazed if he allows him complete control of transfer dealings. The transfers seem to come from him, his players, often foreign ones. 

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17 minutes ago, Paul said:

 

Even if he gives him complete control of picking the team I would be amazed if he allows him complete control of transfer dealings. The transfers seem to come from him, his players, often foreign ones. 

I agree and I suspect part of any Scholes deal will include a joint agreement with regards to future transfers. It's okay a chairman having an input along with a Sporting Director but they have to start trusting people to do their jobs otherwise he might as well as appoint himself as manager.

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15 hours ago, maximus1267 said:

Nothing in football lasts long these days.

I don't know how old you are or how long you have watched latics. 

I have watched since 1976, Others longer than me.

Other than the Royle era and the odd cup upset its been pretty pants.

If you weren't witness to the Royle era i can tell you it was fantastic. 

I feel for the younger fan and sort of understand were you are coming from.

So onto now, any chance of something big, we should grasp because it might be a long time before something similar comes along, if ever.

If it doesn't work, so what, at least we gave it a shot.

My Dad who’s been watching Latics since the 50’s told me during the ‘pinch me’ era to go and watch them everywhere because we’d been dreadful virtually all his life and it wouldn’t last😂

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15 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

I agree and I suspect part of any Scholes deal will include a joint agreement with regards to future transfers. It's okay a chairman having an input along with a Sporting Director but they have to start trusting people to do their jobs otherwise he might as well as appoint himself as manager.

 

Im still waiting to see owner  in the technical area in a pair of Puma Kings 😂🙈 #FullKitW#@£er 

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39 minutes ago, Paul said:

 

Even if he gives him complete control of picking the team I would be amazed if he allows him complete control of transfer dealings. The transfers seem to come from him, his players, often foreign ones. 

 

I don’t want the manager to have complete control of transfer dealings. No way.  Nor should anyone else with the club at heart. Managers are more transient than players. It make no sense. I thought almost all clubs had woken up to this by now? 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

I don’t want the manager to have complete control of transfer dealings. No way.  Nor should anyone else with the club at heart. Managers are more transient than players. It make no sense. I thought almost all clubs had woken up to this by now? 

 

 

 

its too much owner based at the moment though, that is my concern. I’m not saying a manager should get everything his own way but he should have a very big say in who comes in and who goes out as it’s his neck on the line, his team to pick and work with and his reputation that’s judged. 

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7 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

I don’t want the manager to have complete control of transfer dealings. No way.  Nor should anyone else with the club at heart. 

 

 

Paul Scholes does...

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1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

but you'd begrudge paying one of the highest profile ex-players in the country the going rate?

Since when was £300,00 a year the going rate in a skint Lge 2 football club?

 

1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

Part of the problem this club has had particularly in our relegation season was the tail wagging the dog, players on 5, 6, 8 or 10k holding all the power, controlling the dressing room and dictating which direction the club goes in, all whilst a succession of managers on £800 a week lose the dressing room, what other walk of life sees the manager on a 10nth of one of his subordinates earn?

The amount of money you earn does equate to the power you control in the dressing room. It may contribute to disharmony admittedly. We just had crap managers.

For the last highlighted bit-probably politics, don't some civil servants earn more than ministers? What a good job they are doing for us at the moment.

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2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said:

Paul Scholes does...

 

“Total” control? 

 

Well he shouldn’t have. 

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38 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

“Total” control? 

 

Well he shouldn’t have. 

I think he means he has the best interests of the club at heart.

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8 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said:

I think he means he has the best interests of the club at heart.

 

Really? I thought he meant Scholes wants total control. He might mean both, but they aren’t compatible in my opinion. 

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41 minutes ago, kowenicki said:

 

Really? I thought he meant Scholes wants total control. He might mean both, but they aren’t compatible in my opinion. 

Open to interpretation, I'm sure he'll tell us.

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