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2 minutes ago, al_bro said:

It shouldn't matter who he sold his shares to. Once they are sold he no longer has an interest legally. When he buys them back at the latest price, then he has an interest  again.

The reason I am highlighting it, is that the EFL rules (not the law) stiplulates influence. It speficailyl states it cannot be another member of the family, or someone he has influence with. Any half decent lawayer could prove that Scholes still had influence with the others.

I hope not, but it might be why it is taking a bit longer. Was it Butt or Neville that said they hoped something could be worked out. Might not be straightforward.

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Just now, singe said:

The reason I am highlighting it, is that the EFL rules (not the law) stiplulates influence. It speficailyl states it cannot be another member of the family, or someone he has influence with. Any half decent lawayer could prove that Scholes still had influence with the others.

I hope not, but it might be why it is taking a bit longer. Was it Butt or Neville that said they hoped something could be worked out. Might not be straightforward.

 

That sounds like Hotel California.

 

If he sells the shares outside his family then the FA cannot reasonably have any issue with it. 

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2 hours ago, robboman said:

On Sky Sports:

 

''Oldham Athletic may know more later this week if Paul Scholes will be able to become their manager whilst retaining part ownership in National League side Salford City. 

Sky sources understand the issue will be looked at by the games authorities before the weekend but it’s not clear if a decision will be made by then.

EFL rules state that a person cannot have an interest in two Clubs at the same time, rule 104 states that  “Except with the prior written consent of the Board a person, or any associate of that person, who is interested in a Club cannot at the same time be interested in any other football club”.

It’s believed Scholes does not want to relinquish his involvement in Salford City, however the matter would not be an issue unless the National League side were promoted to the Football League in May, and with both sides already out of this seasons FA Cup it would only become an issue in next season’s competition''

 

If he has no interest in selling his shares then in Salford City then surely that's game over interms of him becoming our manager.

 

If he has no interest in relinquishing his shares in Salford then Lemsagam should withdraw any offer of him becoming mamager if he has any common  sense..... Oh wait!

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I'm beginning to wonder if Scholes has what it takes, intelligence wise,  to become a successful manager. After all you have to have the ability to plan in advance, adapt plans at short / no notice, and to be able to think on your feet in an evolving situation.

 

So :

 

(1) l want to manage a football team, other than the one l have a financial interest in 

 

(2) l have a pound or two in the bank, so can afford access to very switched on legal and accountancy advice, who will have the requirements / procedures nailed down for me

 

(3) In view of above, l could do a certain amount of forward planning / approach work so that in the event of a position being offered to me that l wanted to take, l could immediately put in motion whatever was needed to meet FA (or whoever) criteria - this should have been worked out months ago

 

or

 

(4 )I sit on my hands and the  whole requirement comes as a complete surprise to me, when offered a position ( which to be honest, looks like the most likely). 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, parigby said:

I'm beginning to wonder if Scholes has what it takes, intelligence wise,  to become a successful manager. After all you have to have the ability to plan in advance, adapt plans at short / no notice, and to be able to think on your feet in an evolving situation.

 

So :

 

(1) l want to manage a football team, other than the one l have a financial interest in 

 

(2) l have a pound or two in the bank, so can afford access to very switched on legal and accountancy advice, who will have the requirements / procedures nailed down for me

 

(3) In view of above, l could do a certain amount of forward planning / approach work so that in the event of a position being offered to me that l wanted to take, l could immediately put in motion whatever was needed to meet FA (or whoever) criteria - this should have been worked out months ago

 

or

 

(4 )I sit on my hands and the  whole requirement comes as a complete surprise to me, when offered a position ( which to be honest, looks like the most likely). 

 

 

 

 

A very logical argument, although in Scholes’ defence he has had other things on his mind lately

 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/paul-scholes-arron-pub-attack-15671359

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3 hours ago, singe said:

 

I am sure that would be obvious, easily traceable, and they could step in, and retrospectively ban him.

 

I'd be utterly amazed if something like that happened

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1 hour ago, parigby said:

I'm beginning to wonder if Scholes has what it takes, intelligence wise,  to become a successful manager. After all you have to have the ability to plan in advance, adapt plans at short / no notice, and to be able to think on your feet in an evolving situation.

 

So :

 

(1) l want to manage a football team, other than the one l have a financial interest in 

 

(2) l have a pound or two in the bank, so can afford access to very switched on legal and accountancy advice, who will have the requirements / procedures nailed down for me

 

(3) In view of above, l could do a certain amount of forward planning / approach work so that in the event of a position being offered to me that l wanted to take, l could immediately put in motion whatever was needed to meet FA (or whoever) criteria - this should have been worked out months ago

 

or

 

(4 )I sit on my hands and the  whole requirement comes as a complete surprise to me, when offered a position ( which to be honest, looks like the most likely). 

 

 

 

 

(5) Go to a few Latics games while laughing me bollocks off at the ridiculous pantomine playing out about me supposed to be interested in managing OAFC.

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2 hours ago, kowenicki said:

 

That sounds like Hotel California.

 

If he sells the shares outside his family then the FA cannot reasonably have any issue with it. 

If the FA/EFL believed that Scholes could have influence with the others about his investment then they easily could. It's easy to see why they think that is the case., and why they'd make us and them more at risk of legal action in certain circumstances. 

If it wasn't the case, he'd have been manager weeks ago. 

Edited by singe

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8 minutes ago, latics22 said:

Jesus if he really wants the job, get rid of the shares if not, I don’t want him managing my team !

Must admit, that's pretty much the way I see it. If he is to be our manager we should be his only footballing concern. If he doesn't see it like that, we should be looking elsewhere.

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Our owner (well sort of owner) and his brother are football agents which is apparently not allowed so what on earth is wrong with our manager having interests in other clubs? 😊

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18 minutes ago, Stanley30 said:

It’s dragging like crazy, guess we gave up this year

 

Remember the year Corney sold LJ to Barnsley and gave up trying to get in the Championship by appointing Dean Holden to the end of the season. Heady times.

Edited by lookersstandandy

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33 minutes ago, Ritchierich said:

Our owner (well sort of owner) and his brother are football agents which is apparently not allowed so what on earth is wrong with our manager having interests in other clubs? 😊

They’re no longer agents...they had to give that up (or at least AL did I don’t know about his brother) to take over the club. Sorting that was what caused the take over to drag on so long in the end. 

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29 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

 

Remember the year Corney sold LJ to Barnsley and gave up trying to get in the Championship by appointing Dean Holden to the end of the season. Heady times.

Bazza been back in AL ear ? Listen guv can we really afford to be going up to league one ? We are still trying to pay the loan back you took out for your French geezers last season. Plus its stil shit in league one and I’ve done most of them stadiums now. 

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Joey Barton & Big Sam on Talk Sport this morning, giving it large about the lack of opportunity given to English/British coaches/managers - which incidentally I agree with - however,

 

Big Sam has just used us as an example to highlight his point, “Oldham have just sacked a Dutch coach. I mean if Oldham have got a Dutch coach what is the world coming to”.

 

Barton, “It was Frankie Bunn”

 

Big Sam, “Was it? Oh”

 

:lol:

 

Get a foreign coach in Lemmy. Fook em.

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1 minute ago, lookersstandandy said:

Joey Barton & Big Sam on Talk Sport this morning, giving it large about the lack of opportunity given to English/British coaches/managers - which incidentally I agree with - however,

 

Big Sam has just used us as an example to highlight his point, “Oldham have just sacked a Dutch coach. I mean if Oldham have got a Dutch coach what is the world coming to”.

 

Barton, “It was Frankie Bunn”

 

Big Sam, “Was it? Oh”

 

:lol:

 

Get a foreign coach in Lemmy. Fook em.

 

He meant Frankie Van Bunn.😁

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21 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said:

Joey Barton & Big Sam on Talk Sport this morning, giving it large about the lack of opportunity given to English/British coaches/managers - which incidentally I agree with - however,

 

Big Sam has just used us as an example to highlight his point, “Oldham have just sacked a Dutch coach. I mean if Oldham have got a Dutch coach what is the world coming to”.

 

Barton, “It was Frankie Bunn”

 

Big Sam, “Was it? Oh”

 

:lol:

 

Get a foreign coach in Lemmy. Fook em.

The only Dutch coach  sacked was the Sheff Weds coach.  🙄
Only 5 of the 30 managers since August sacked have been foreign. Big Sam is a bit of a knob isn't he.

 

Maybe it's our fault though, making it really difficult to recruit Engliash managers like Scholes....

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The stupid thing is that selling his 10% holding doesn’t mean he would have no influence in the Salford project. It is as with AL that efl want to be seen to do the right thing I suppose. 

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Anyone know if he’d actually be willing to relinquish his shares in Salford if that was the only way he’d legally be allowed to become our gaffer?

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53 minutes ago, singe said:

The only Dutch coach  sacked was the Sheff Weds coach.  🙄
Only 5 of the 30 managers since August sacked have been foreign. Big Sam is a bit of a knob isn't he.

 

Maybe it's our fault though, making it really difficult to recruit Engliash managers like Scholes....

 

Bloody foreigners. Coming over here, keeping our jobs.

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17 hours ago, parigby said:

I'm beginning to wonder if Scholes has what it takes, intelligence wise,  to become a successful manager. After all you have to have the ability to plan in advance, adapt plans at short / no notice, and to be able to think on your feet in an evolving situation.

 

 

Reckon he did that through 20 years of top flight football.

 

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