Hands on Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 The times they have changed. If managers/coaches are just ephemeral things then a sporting director makes sense however I would be more comfortable if I thought the sporting director had to perform well to keep his job. Experience is a wonderful thing but we can only get an experienced coach if he has already failed elsewhere. Age does not qualify you to be a coach it is your experience and character - if Wild has it now is his time. This will be an interesting transfer window as it becomes increasingly clear that we are heading for a no deal WTO based relationship with the EU. All the misinformation you hear is purely and simply the remoaners trying to undo the referendum result. The deal foisted upon the Maybot is worse than both staying in or a WTO based relationship. Staying in would no doubt suit our sporting director, so what will he do as the no deal WTO approaches at the end of January. Will he sign as many players as he can to give them some residency pre independence day? Will he in the period from end of January bring in a flood of unattached overseas players to get round the post independence day rules on immigration as we are hardly short of football players and the world wide rules will no doubt then apply to all the 27 remaining EU countries? He has a lot to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hands on said: The times they have changed. If managers/coaches are just ephemeral things then a sporting director makes sense however I would be more comfortable if I thought the sporting director had to perform well to keep his job. Experience is a wonderful thing but we can only get an experienced coach if he has already failed elsewhere. Age does not qualify you to be a coach it is your experience and character - if Wild has it now is his time. This will be an interesting transfer window as it becomes increasingly clear that we are heading for a no deal WTO based relationship with the EU. All the misinformation you hear is purely and simply the remoaners trying to undo the referendum result. The deal foisted upon the Maybot is worse than both staying in or a WTO based relationship. Staying in would no doubt suit our sporting director, so what will he do as the no deal WTO approaches at the end of January. Will he sign as many players as he can to give them some residency pre independence day? Will he in the period from end of January bring in a flood of unattached overseas players to get round the post independence day rules on immigration as we are hardly short of football players and the world wide rules will no doubt then apply to all the 27 remaining EU countries? He has a lot to think about. Just stick them on a speedboat from Calais. Going rate is about three grand I believe. If it’s good enough for some middle class folk from Iran then it’s good enough for these lads. Claim asylum as ‘refugees’... bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Won't work now the gendarmes have got trial bikes and a torch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Does the vote not take place before the end of January so there may be a little more clarity by then? MP's will not allow a no deal Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Does the vote not take place before the end of January so there may be a little more clarity by then? MP's will not allow Brexit. Corrected for you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Twisbrogan said: If we're going to be turning over 'managers' on a regular basis then I'd rather they had nothing to do with identifying players. Just means you have squad made up of leftovers from a previous regime. That only works if the nepotism & most secure sporting director job in the country is any fkin good at identifying them himself.... or we’re in a lot of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 A lot of the reason for the model was to take the bung/old boys club aspect out of player buying. We've made a few signings over the decades that wouldn't passed a committee (by owners as well as managers). PS no Brexit outcome will make a difference for EU registered players for a year or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 hours ago, whittles left foot said: Does the vote not take place before the end of January so there may be a little more clarity by then? MP's will not allow a no deal Brexit. MP's can't stop it. It's written in law that we leave March 29th. May could delay it by asking for Article 50 to be extended, which the EU have said they will only agree to if we have another referendum. If leaving under WTO stops UK clubs bringing in foreign players who are not internationals then it may help the England team because English players will get a chance. Even Prem. clubs youth set ups are full of foreign players these days. Bring it on. AL's brother will have to liaise with the manager to help him find players who fit into the system and fit into the dressing room without causing problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, al_bro said: MP's can't stop it. It's written in law that we leave March 29th. May could delay it by asking for Article 50 to be extended, which the EU have said they will only agree to if we have another referendum. My comment was about a No Deal Brexit. Yes it is written into law. There are still several ways in which Brexit can be avoided, too many permutations to list here and it is a Footie forum not a political forum. Next week the bunfight continues in Parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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singe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 2:58 PM, singe said: Maybe she has already..?! 15 roles will have changed in a month by the time the new Mgr & Asst are appointed. All change. It will be more changes than that. SInce the last update New manager and Asst obviously. Pete's permanent role, and return of Conor Marlin are good news. Broady's 2811 Media seem to have been dropped as Commercial Consultants Sports Liaision Officer no longer in post. Michael Brown's move from Southport to take over Sam Rosbottom confirmed. Since Dec 8th (not all bad moves, unexpected or cause for concern) but a huge turnover: Sporting Director New Sporting Director AL's brother Director Simon Brooke gone New Club Secretary SLO gone Safeguarding officer gone, replaced by new Club Secretary New Manager New Asst Manager New GK coach Analyst position new vacant New Academy Manager New Head of Academy Coaching Academy Administrator gone (2nd one a month earlier) Vacant Commercial Consultant New Head of Media New Football admin post 1 Laundry post lost https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/club/contact-us/ CLUB OFFICIALS Owner Abdallah Lemsagam Sporting Director Mohamed Lemsagam Directors Club Secretary Mark Sheridan Safety Officer Steve Clarke Health & Safety Consultant Spectra Hon Medical Officers Dr Rob Beardsell & Dr James Weems Club Chaplain Rev John Simmons Safeguarding Officer Mark Sheridan Supporter Liaison Officer TBA Disability Liaison Officer David Humphries Inclusion Supporter Liaison Officer Omar Latif PROFESSIONAL STAFF Manager Paul Scholes Assistant Mick Priest Goalkeeping Coach Steve Hale Head Physiotherapist Stuart Irwin Strength & Conditioning Coach Stuart Vance Analyst TBC Kit Manager Alan Jackson ACADEMY STAFF Interim Academy Manager Pete Wild Head of Coach Development Chris Millington Head of Coaching Connor Marlin Youth Development Phase Coach TBC Foundation Phase Coach Craig Large Senior Therapist TBC Head of Recruitment Paul Ogden COMMERCIAL Commercial Consultant TBC Commercial Assistant Ashleigh Poxon MEDIA Head of Media & Communications Michael Brown Media Assistant Dominic Shaw Matchday Press Officer Roy Butterworth Club Photographer Eddie Garvey Design Eden Creative FOOTBALL OPERATIONS Administration Sue Bowskill Accounts Administrator Allyson Dean Supporters Services Assistant Billy Thompson Football Administrator Henry Francis GROUNDSTAFF Head Groundsman Paul Flynn Grounds Assistants Warren Caine & Daniel Doherty Apprentice Grounds Assistant Dean Pickering jr Head of Maintanence Dean Pickering Maintanence Operative Jason Pheasey Cleaning Operatives Andrew Ingham, Cecilia Taylor, Julie Hilton, Chris Rimmer Laundry Rose Stewart OLDHAM ATHLETIC COMMUNITY TRUST Community Manager Martin Vose Operations & Safeguarding Manager Wendy Noble OWNERSHIP STATEMENT COMPANY DETAILS Oldham Athletic (2004) AFC Ltd. Registered in England: Company Number: 4989487 VAT Registered Number: 831 8971 04 Abdallah Lemsagam holds 97% of share capital. Declaration under Regulation 105 of The Football League Limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, singe said: Apprentice Grounds Assistant Dean Pickering jr Head of Maintanence Dean Pickering Jobs for the boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, jsslatic said: Jobs for the boys. Would you argue with uncle Ronnie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, jsslatic said: Jobs for the boys. Snr has done some much work for OAFC, some out of his own pocket, why not employ someone else with potentially that work ethic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Sense of humour bypass active Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, singe said: All change. It will be more changes than that. SInce the last update New manager and Asst obviously. Pete's permanent role, and return of Conor Marlin are good news. Broady's 2811 Media seem to have been dropped as Commercial Consultants Sports Liaision Officer no longer in post. Michael Brown's move from Southport to take over Sam Rosbottom confirmed. Since Dec 8th (not all bad moves, unexpected or cause for concern) but a huge turnover: Sporting Director New Sporting Director AL's brother Director Simon Brooke gone New Club Secretary SLO gone Safeguarding officer gone, replaced by new Club Secretary New Manager New Asst Manager New GK coach Analyst position new vacant New Academy Manager New Head of Academy Coaching Academy Administrator gone (2nd one a month earlier) Vacant Commercial Consultant New Head of Media New Football admin post 1 Laundry post lost Interesting that Supporter Liaison Officer is gone, it's a requirement of the league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Interesting that Supporter Liaison Officer is gone, it's a requirement of the league... I guess they are being replaced. I'd imagine by someone already employed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Interesting that Supporter Liaison Officer is gone, it's a requirement of the league... The staff list states that the SLO is TBA which could be interpreted as a role waiting to be filled. Not sure how long it's been unoccupied, or how long the EFL allow clubs to have the role vacant - if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matt said: The staff list states that the SLO is TBA which could be interpreted as a role waiting to be filled. Not sure how long it's been unoccupied, or how long the EFL allow clubs to have the role vacant - if at all. I wonder if Mark has given it up since he became Chairman of the Trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: I wonder if Mark has given it up since he became Chairman of the Trust. Sounds right. On one level, if would be quite a nice tie in, but I'd imagine there could be conflicts and he may have relisnquished the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: I wonder if Mark has given it up since he became Chairman of the Trust. I thought Diane Mellor held that role - so went on the trust website to check, but there is no listing of trust directors at all on there. I did eventually find some news on the subject but in one, year old, three paragraph article it has Simon Brooke resigning his position and taking over as Chair. Just searching for 'Mark' yielded no relevant reusults. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I thought Diane Mellor held that role - so went on the trust website to check, but there is no listing of trust directors at all on there. I did eventually find some news on the subject but in one, year old, three paragraph article it has Simon Brooke resigning his position and taking over as Chair. Just searching for 'Mark' yielded no relevant reusults. ? Diane holds the role of Trust rep on the board of the club (yeah, yeah. I know ). There is a separate Chair of the Trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, singe said: Sounds right. On one level, if would be quite a nice tie in, but I'd imagine there could be conflicts and he may have relisnquished the role. I believe it's not to do with this now. He hasn't relinquished the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: I believe it's not to do with this now. He hasn't relinquished the role. Ah OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Diane holds the role of Trust rep on the board of the club (yeah, yeah. I know ). There is a separate Chair of the Trust. But who is 'Mark'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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