archiecat Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Kinell. The land is up for sale. Should the fanled group fail / AL not have the funds / the council not be willing...... the alternative is a landowner with other objectives..... that do not include the football club being resident on it. There is nothing far fetched about that conclusion. Think we can rule out the Council (potless) Think we can rule out Mr (not a team player/may be potless) Fan led group ? (who knows,would be nice to think a collective of wealthy fans had the means to do this) Hmmmmmm ? Outside entity ( Raze the place to the ground and ease the burden on OMBC to comply with GMSF quota) Very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 A bit confused here. I may have this wildly wrong, but the title of the release refers to Boundary Park. I thought AL owned Boundary Park (which doesn't include the North Stand) and Brassbank owned the land it sits on and the North Stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Kinell. The land is up for sale. Should the fanled group fail / AL not have the funds / the council not be willing...... the alternative is a landowner with other objectives..... that do not include the football club being resident on it. There is nothing far fetched about that conclusion. Kinell. The idea isn’t far fetched. The reality of that happening is pur fantasy. So you think a commercial venture, will pay vastly over the odds. Knock down a new 7 million pound stand. Then have the spare change left to build what they want. I reckon all of that would only cost 30million plus. All while enjoying the wonderful PR that comes with booting 100+year football club out of its home. Yeah. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: No. We won't. Apologies if I’ve interpreted it wrong but if the ACV has been activated doesn’t that mean that they’ve found a new buyer for their land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Kinell. The land is up for sale. Should the fanled group fail / AL not have the funds / the council not be willing...... the alternative is a landowner with other objectives..... that do not include the football club being resident on it. There is nothing far fetched about that conclusion. The other alternative is that Brassbank keep hold of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ryan said: Apologies if I’ve interpreted it wrong but if the ACV has been activated doesn’t that mean that they’ve found a new buyer for their land? I'm not sure the ACV has been activated, otherwise I think there would be more of a request to raise funds from fans. I think this is just Brassbank seeing if the Trust wanted to do something with it... Edit - ignore me. The statement says it's part of the first refusal of the ACV. There must be someone else lined up. Interesting that they aren't panicking and rushing round for funds, there must be some decent backers involved? Edited February 14, 2019 by jorvik_latic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ryan said: Apologies if I’ve interpreted it wrong but if the ACV has been activated doesn’t that mean that they’ve found a new buyer for their land? Could just be that they've given them a chance to do a deal and this fan led thing think it is feasible. We certainly won't be out on our ear any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Edit - ignore me. The statement says it's part of the first refusal of the ACV. There must be someone else lined up. Interesting that they aren't panicking and rushing round for funds, there must be some decent backers involved? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: I'm not sure the ACV has been activated, otherwise I think there would be more of a request to raise funds from fans. I think this is just Brassbank seeing if the Trust wanted to do something with it... Edit - ignore me. The statement says it's part of the first refusal of the ACV. There must be someone else lined up. Interesting that they aren't panicking and rushing round for funds, there must be some decent backers involved? Think the "someone else" is the fan group. Believe it includes Mr Whitehead who built the stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 If Abdallah put in an offer wouldn't that trigger the ACV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Think the "someone else" is the fan group. Believe it includes Mr Whitehead who built the stand? I meant someone else (buyer) apart from the fan group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: If Abdallah put in an offer wouldn't that trigger the ACV? It's been triggered according to the statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: It's been triggered according to the statement. By the fan group you'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, deyres42 said: By the fan group you'd say. Jesus, I need to learn to read. I thought the fan group were working with the Trust to put a bid together. Edit - they are. Just that the group initiated the talks to buy the stadium, triggered the ACV and then invited the Trust to join them. The statement is confusing - it says the Trust have been invited to join the talks which suggests that it would be rival bids. Headline says they've been invited to join the group. Edited February 14, 2019 by jorvik_latic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Including the apparent need for a great deal of expensive work on the main stand and chaddy end this sounds like fantasy to me. I hope not but I will retain a sceptical view until shown otherwise. Do you see another Failsworth saga looming Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Do you see another Failsworth saga looming Dave? Lord knows. Past experience doesn't lead me to a state of unrestrained optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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al_bro Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 18 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: ....it’s obvious. See my posts above. They (Brassbank) have effectively told us they want to sell the land. The Trust have placed an ACV - Asset of Community Value - order on the land. This gives us 6 months to find a buyer to keep Boundary Park a football ground - that could be starting now. That would take us to August. If we can’t, they can sell it to who they want. eg Tesco, or Bovis. They won’t want to be our landlords. They’ll want a supermarket/houses on it. We’ll be homeless. Begging Dale or Bury to let us groundshare, like Charlton & Wimbledon at Selhurt Park in the 80s & 90s, or Brighton at the Withdean. We need to pray for a miracle here. I read it that the fans group contacted Brass Bank to purchase the land, not that they were looking to sell. I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Why is there always loads of negativity on here from the usual few whenever a major announcement has broken, the trust are merely keeping fans in the loop.....I sometimes wish that they would say fuck all!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, oafc1955 said: Why is there always loads of negativity on here from the usual few whenever a major announcement has broken, the trust are merely keeping fans in the loop.....I sometimes wish that they would say fuck all!!! I don't as would effectively defeat the purpose of the trust and give more ammunition to those that say 'Don't trust The Trust'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, oafc1955 said: Why is there always loads of negativity on here from the usual few whenever a major announcement has broken, the trust are merely keeping fans in the loop.....I sometimes wish that they would say fuck all!!! I don't feel in the loop as I can't glean much from the extremely vague statement they've released. Less so as I've also read their seemingly contradictory tweet... Edited February 14, 2019 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, rudemedic said: I don't as would effectively defeat the purpose of the trust and give more ammunition to those that say 'Don't trust The Trust'. You could just say what you actually think and feel...... Don't Trust the Medic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 As ever, hats off to those who volunteer their time for the Trust - I can't/don't want to do it. I had a good chat with Darren in the White Hart recently and he's alright, as were those who went before him (jorvik & leeslover aside), but.... For years most of any info that has been released has been unclear at best and nudge, nudge, wink, wink at worst - more often the latter. Why can't we just have communications that are always clear, informative and in plain English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 These statements and tweets from trust have caused a lot of confusion. Can we have something a bit clearer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Well, maybe the trust can have a meeting with a panel of posters from this site. I'm happy to try and bridge but I am sure there are better people suited than me. In essence we are all here for the good of the club, totally get that some posters are/ can be negative but their views are just as essential. I don't think it's a matter of the trust trying to confuse anyone but the clubs running matters are fluid and it must be difficult to keep up with the pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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