astottie Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, OLDHAMADE said: I'm sure they'll be a few in training that'll be a tad starstruck and who'd blame em I was amused before the game when pa announced scholes and we all stood up to clap, to see Hamer and Lang joining in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, astottie said: I was amused before the game when pa announced scholes and we all stood up to clap, to see Hamer and Lang joining in. And to their credit the Yeovil fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, yarddog73 said: And to their credit the Yeovil fans. Fair play to them. A hell of a trek on a Tuesday night to watch those cloggers. Deserved the applause we gave them when the attendance was read out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: Quelle surprise. Any detail inaccuracies here? ".....the thing he [AL] has to learn/understand is, his behaviour; - wages/pension contributions paid late or not at all, - his treatment of Davies, Fane, Gerrard, Byrne, Duffus [justified or not], - signing players that didn't seem up to it & on big wages, - entering the dressing room, - sacking Wellens, sacking Rhodes, sacking Bunn, - meddling in selection, .....could well have been a significant contributor to Hunt asking his Agent to find him alternative employment in the first place" There was no slacking from Hunt last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, BP1960 said: There was no slacking from Hunt last night. Quite. How he wasn’t playing with Gevaro in front of him at places like Macclesfield, or at home to Forest Green is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: Quite. How he wasn’t playing with Gevaro in front of him at places like Macclesfield, or at home to Forest Green is beyond me. Rob Hunt being at full back cuts out an attacking option. He's pants going forward compared to Nepo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, kowenicki said: I’m sure they do. What’s your point? In in one case AL was behaving perfectly reasonably and in the other he wasn’t. We can't preach about holding people to contracts when we are not fully honouring them ourselves. Im pretty sure in most contracts it tells us what day of the month you will be paid something we didn't honour while Davies was here. We treat people like this they will either put in half arsed performances or in many cases walk away (I would of fucked off along time ago if I had a boss like AL Life is far too short to go to work for a shit boss). Im hoping lessons are being learned regarding this. Edited February 13, 2019 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: We can't preach about holding people to contracts when we are not fully honouring them ourselves. Im pretty sure in most contracts it tells us what day of the month you will be paid something we didn't honour while Davies was here. We treat people like this they will either put in half arsed performances or in many cases walk away (I would of fucked off along time ago if I had a boss like AL Life is far too short to go to work for a shit boss). Im hoping lessons are being learned regarding this. So these people have much more tolerance than you or half of what we hear is bullshit. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, mikejh45 said: Your starting position on every discussion on this subject is AL is in the wrong. In your strange head, the players kicked out were lovable rogues and the managers he got rid of should have been given more time. I had no problem with getting rid of Davies, Gerrard and Byrne as I always felt they thought they were bigger than than their actual ability. Fane was another matter as I have no idea what actually happened. As for managers, I think both were weak and if AL felt they were underperforming, then why should an owner sit by and let the rot continue. It’d be nice if Andy could buy into the ‘fresh start’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 23 hours ago, Handsy said: Steady on BP he was good but praise that high are you sure MassIve fan of Groves, but he had many off days. Branger isn't in the same class but has similarities in style of play. Scholes hopefully can improve him further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, mikejh45 said: Your starting position on every discussion on this subject is AL is in the wrong. In your strange head, the players kicked out were lovable rogues and the managers he got rid of should have been given more time. I had no problem with getting rid of Davies, Gerrard and Byrne as I always felt they thought they were bigger than than their actual ability. Fane was another matter as I have no idea what actually happened. As for managers, I think both were weak and if AL felt they were underperforming, then why should an owner sit by and let the rot continue. I think that’s a very charitable position to take. 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Wasting your breath. He just hates AL. He always will. If we become sucessful under AL’s stewardship then lookers will vanish from the forum. Fool. 20 minutes ago, maddog said: It’d be nice if Andy could buy into the ‘fresh start’. Fair. I’m happy to do that..... but if he defaults to type, I’m not going to be an apologist for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: We can't preach about holding people to contracts when we are not fully honouring them ourselves. Im pretty sure in most contracts it tells us what day of the month you will be paid something we didn't honour while Davies was here. We treat people like this they will either put in half arsed performances or in many cases walk away (I would of fucked off along time ago if I had a boss like AL Life is far too short to go to work for a shit boss). Im hoping lessons are being learned regarding this. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I think that’s a very charitable position to take. Fool. Fair. I’m happy to do that..... but if he defaults to type, I’m not going to be an apologist for it. We’ll see. I give it a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: We can't preach about holding people to contracts when we are not fully honouring them ourselves. Im pretty sure in most contracts it tells us what day of the month you will be paid something we didn't honour while Davies was here. We treat people like this they will either put in half arsed performances or in many cases walk away (I would of fucked off along time ago if I had a boss like AL Life is far too short to go to work for a shit boss). Im hoping lessons are being learned regarding this. Did you take the same view with Corney paying players late on a regular basis for several years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mikejh45 said: Did you take the same view with Corney paying players late on a regular basis for several years? Yes I'm also hoping that lessons have been learned and we can all have a fresh start. Edited February 14, 2019 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 hours ago, kowenicki said: Wasting your breath. He just hates AL. He always will. If we become sucessful under AL’s stewardship then lookers will vanish from the forum. I wouldn't have thought so, he has some valid points re AL, he just as much as the rest of us wants him to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 19 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: I think that’s a very charitable position to take. Fool. Fair. I’m happy to do that..... but if he defaults to type, I’m not going to be an apologist for it. You can say I told you so if it goes tits up then Andy. But if it goes the opposite (thinking what’s the opposite I’m going for tits out ) then will you be man enough to admit your wrong ? Maybe AL has had a plan all along and hopefully things will start to turn for the better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: You can say I told you so if it goes tits up then Andy. But if it goes the opposite (thinking what’s the opposite I’m going for tits out ) then will you be man enough to admit your wrong ? Maybe AL has had a plan all along and hopefully things will start to turn for the better now. Tits down surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: You can say I told you so if it goes tits up then Andy. But if it goes the opposite (thinking what’s the opposite I’m going for tits out ) then will you be man enough to admit your wrong ? Maybe AL has had a plan all along and hopefully things will start to turn for the better now. I will have no interest in saying I told you so if my football club suffers. I will take no pleasure from it whatsoever. All I have asked for to date - not unreasonably - is the semblance of a business plan to improve the fortunes of our club. He (AL) should be concerning himself with improvements to infrastructure, facilities and how to increase income. He shouldn’t be faffing about banishing player after player to the naughty step & bursting into the dressing room every other week. Let’s see if/how he engages with the news Brassbank are potentially willing to sell their land to a fan led group? He could start by appointing a functioning board to include our Trust rep and so she could push for / influence / understand what his Plans are. Alas, we still don’t have one. Hygiene factors like paying wages on time, pensions contributions at all, winding up petitions, lots of disgruntled ex employees, negative journo stories, should be infrequent events in a well run business. In his defence, we have seen less of these over recent times, albeit there was a recent rumour another story could break. Equally I’m not congratulating anyone for doing the bare minimum. For the first time one could argue his foreign legion of signings seem to be making a collectable discernible difference.... and he has convinced one of the highest profile managers we could possibly hope to attract to join us. There are green shoots of recovery.... but we are still mid table in a division below where he joined us, a division we last competed in before I was born. So, forgive me for not being satisfied or lavishing praise his way yet.... but if he behaves, the manager is allowed to do his job, facilities improve & we become competitive, I’ll be the first to congratulate him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Tits down surely? My thinking. Tits up is always bad but tits out is always bloody fantastic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I will have no interest in saying I told you so if my football club suffers. I will take no pleasure from it whatsoever. All I have asked for to date - not unreasonably - is the semblance of a business plan to improve the fortunes of our club. He (AL) should be concerning himself with improvements to infrastructure, facilities and how to increase income. He shouldn’t be faffing about banishing player after player to the naughty step & bursting into the dressing room every other week. Let’s see if/how he engages with the news Brassbank are potentially willing to sell their land to a fan led group? He could start by appointing a functioning board to include our Trust rep and so she could push for / influence / understand what his Plans are. Alas, we still don’t have one. Hygiene factors like paying wages on time, pensions contributions at all, winding up petitions, lots of disgruntled ex employees, negative journo stories, should be infrequent events in a well run business. In his defence, we have seen less of these over recent times, albeit there was a recent rumour another story could break. Equally I’m not congratulating anyone for doing the bare minimum. For the first time one could argue his foreign legion of signings seem to be making a collectable discernible difference.... and he has convinced one of the highest profile managers we could possibly hope to attract to join us. There are green shoots of recovery.... but we are still mid table in a division below where he joined us, a division we last competed in before I was born. So, forgive me for not being satisfied or lavishing praise his way yet.... but if he behaves, the manager is allowed to do his job, facilities improve & we become competitive, I’ll be the first to congratulate him. Good fair post. And I agree with the majority. Remember though slowly slowly is what he said and maybe , just maybe that’s what is happening and maybe he did have a plan all along. He was never going to just day my plan is to do x y z. Let’s wait and see and also hope anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 59 minutes ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Tits down surely? Rochdale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: Rochdale Upboat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 9:37 PM, Magic Mikey said: Fair play to them. A hell of a trek on a Tuesday night to watch those cloggers. Deserved the applause we gave them when the attendance was read out. True, we took 262 to them on a Tuesday night earlier in the season, ridiculous how good our away support is compared to other clubs with similar home attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Andy-latic said: True, we took 262 to them on a Tuesday night earlier in the season, ridiculous how good our away support is compared to other clubs with similar home attendances. I think their home attendance has been much bigger than ours in recent years aswell.. might have dropped off in all fairness so couldn’t say with complete accuracy. i know Deyres doesn’t like people banging the away following drum but it’s one of the only things we can be ‘proud’ of in recent years. Even tho it’s not at our all time high, it’s fairly good going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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