ghostofcecere Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, underdog said: Diego, unless I really have missed something. There are two parties in situ at BP. Landlord and tennant Landlords are brassbank LTD Tennant is club which is owned by Mr Lemsagram. Mr Lemsagram owns club in name only. Nothing else. He leases and has a rental agreement in place Hope this makes sense Cheers Sorry I’m thick... so the fans group/Trust are looking to buy everything excluding the OEC/North Stand then, is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: Sorry I’m thick... so the fans group/Trust are looking to buy everything excluding the OEC/North Stand then, is that correct? Everything, wouldn't be much point otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Too vague. Come on KIG, you don't need to maintain this ChipPisserOnner persona. Of course quite a few questions arise but it's clear they want to buy Boundary Park and secure our future. What's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: This can only be viewed as a potential positive. Good luck. How come? It tells us nothing and just raises loads of questions. Just non-information isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, underdog said: Diego, unless I really have missed something. There are two parties in situ at BP. Landlord and tennant Landlords are brassbank LTD Tennant is club which is owned by Mr Lemsagram. Mr Lemsagram owns club in name only. Nothing else. He leases and has a rental agreement in place Hope this makes sense Cheers 3 hours ago, Diego_Sideburns said: Thanks for that. Happy Valentine's Day! I've seen better chat up lines but it seemed to do the trick..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, HarryBosch said: How come? It tells us nothing and just raises loads of questions. Just non-information isn't it? Dave, you're coming across really grumpy at the minute.... I'd go as far as to say a difficult read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, singe said: it's clear they want to buy Boundary Park and secure our future. What's not to like? Who wants to? And why? Who are "they"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, lookersstandandy said: Dave, you're coming across really grumpy at the minute.... I'd go as far as to say a difficult read. Considering you've been demanding Abdallah tells you his "plan" in great detail for what seems like an eternity it's a bit odd that you view a couple of statements and posts explaining pretty much fuck all with such enthusiasm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Considering you've been demanding Abdallah tells you his "plan" in great detail for what seems like an eternity it's a bit odd that you view a couple of statements and posts explaining pretty much fuck all with such enthusiasm..... That's more like the Dave that had a 4,000+ approval rating.... Edited February 14, 2019 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Have the Trust just been "invited to join the talks" (eg, in an observational capacity) or are they actually part of the group stumping up the money and ultimately taking ownership? Or have they been invited to become part of the group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: How come? It tells us nothing and just raises loads of questions. Just non-information isn't it? Well it can’t be a worse outcome in my view. Therefore I’ll go with positive. I suppose it could effectively be “no change” if Trust is potless, friendless and deluded, as we may then just end up with new landlords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: How come? It tells us nothing and just raises loads of questions. Just non-information isn't it? 25 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Who wants to? And why? Who are "they"? I tend to agree with Mr Bosch at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, kowenicki said: .....we may then just end up with new landlords. .....and could result in something to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 A reminder: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, singe said: A reminder: Means nothing. My take on it is the Trust are getting involved because the ACV has been triggered not because they are in a position to put an offer in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Means nothing. My take on it is the Trust are getting involved because the ACV has been triggered not because they are in a position to put an offer in. IOf course it means something. If nothing else it means they are a massively better position than if he wasn't there. He will easily have the contacts for the situation both finance and charitable trust wise. Note the calm compose nature of the Trust communicaiton. And a bit more than coincidence I feel, especially given the timing of his appointment and the appearance of Simon Blitz and Danny Gazal. Edited February 14, 2019 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: .....and could result in something to worry about. Possibly, but I thought we had a lease until 2031? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I did say the trust new something about the land the we didn't. I have put a couple of questions on the trust site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Possibly, but I thought we had a lease until 2031? It appears we do.... but I'm sure there are ways/means to break that, should there be a will.... such as a business convincing the council they could create jobs/housing in the area. Edited February 14, 2019 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: It appears we do.... but I'm sure there are ways/means to break that, should there be a will.... such as a business convincing the council they could create jobs/housing in the area. Would imagine the football club would take priority in council eyes unless they intend building a new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, singe said: IOf course it means something. If nothing else it means they are a massively better position than if he wasn't there. He will easily have the contacts for the situation both finance and charitable trust wise. Note the calm compose nature of the Trust communicaiton. And a bit more than coincidence I feel, especially given the timing of his appointment and the appearance of Simon Blitz and Danny Gazal. I agree with your sentiments, better to have him than not...and at 20 years spent with JP Morgan, the man must have a whole world of experience behind him. It is the natural tendency of some to default to the negative every time 'news' breaks regarding Oldham Athletic. It could be symptomatic of the club seemingly being in a constant shit storm in recent times. Me? Just looking forward to dismantling Crewe on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Got told by a lad in the pub last night that the money saved from the admins disabling reputation is going towards the bid. Edited February 14, 2019 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wardie said: I agree with your sentiments, better to have him than not...and at 20 years spent with JP Morgan, the man must have a whole world of experience behind him. It is the natural tendency of some to default to the negative every time 'news' breaks regarding Oldham Athletic. It could be symptomatic of the club seemingly being in a constant shit storm in recent times. Me? Just looking forward to dismantling Crewe on Saturday. I concede we need to be on a guard, and I'm not lemming like in my assumptions all is suddenly well. But yes, hopefully a decent result and performance on Saturday to start an upward curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, PlayItLivo said: Got told by a lad in the pub last night that the money saved from the admins disabling reputation is going towards the bid. We'll soon be playing at the Owtb.co.uk Park... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I think it is clear that the Trust don’t have any financial weight to throw behind this attempt to purchase the ground and whoever has invited them to get involved knows that. The fact that they want them involved, however, has to be a positive. This is described as ‘fan led’. If that is the case then whoever it is will want some element of legitimacy and the Trust offers that. Whatever your views of the Trust, there is no other fan group out there. The Supporters Association disbanded years ago so the Trust offers the best chance of putting forward the “fans’ perspective”. We need to trust that they will ensure that our best interests are represented in any meetings but to do that, we probably need to leave them in peace to get on with it. In return the Trust need to tell us what they can do when they can do. We mustn’t kid ourselves. The odds that someone wants to purchase the ground solely to secure the future of the club feels unlikely. You would need a hell of a lot of cash rattling round your pockets to do that. It is important, therefore, that the commercial sense of the deal is considered alongside the requirement to benefit the football club. Abdallah needs to be consulted with very closely if he isn’t part of the consortium (assuming it is a consortium). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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