kowenicki Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, yarddog73 said: He played very well at Fulham and I'd suspect Celtic wouldn't be much better, he will do just fine continuing to develop and getting better with time, physically he's got all the attributes to do very well in that League. Better?. Celtic aren’t anywhere near Perm standard. Celtic and Rangers are Championship, the rest are league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Better?. Celtic aren’t anywhere near Perm standard. Celtic and Rangers are Championship, the rest are league 1. I agree, Fulham were a Championship (at best) standard team last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I agree, Fulham were a Championship (at best) standard team last season. Yes and Celtic aren’t any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, yarddog73 said: I agree, Fulham were a Championship (at best) standard team last season. We played superbly at Fulham, but by God they were in the perfect time and place for us. I hope George has a great career post Rangers, I think he could play Championship level. Still think Griffith and French Eddy will bum him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, leeslover said: We played superbly at Fulham, but by God they were in the perfect time and place for us. I hope George has a great career post Rangers, I think he could play Championship level. Still think Griffith and French Eddy will bum him. I thought about the same for Tarky when he was playing for us. I really hope he pushes on to that next level similarly. Good luck to the kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleetwood Blue Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I hope he goes onto have a great career and his next move is to the prem for 20mil, 20% of that will be decent if we dont sell it for a bag of balls first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: I thought about the same for Tarky when he was playing for us. I really hope he pushes on to that next level similarly. Good luck to the kid He's not in Tarky's class in any aspect of his game (maybe a bit quicker?) - different level but he can still do well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 hours ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: I thought about the same for Tarky when he was playing for us. I really hope he pushes on to that next level similarly. Good luck to the kid Some doubted Tarky and never thought he'd be where he is today, hence no sell on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, OLDHAMADE said: Some doubted Tarky and never thought he'd be where he is today, hence no sell on. There was a sell on. Corney sold it for buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 minute ago, jorvik_latic said: There was a sell on. Corney sold it for buttons. He was sold for buttons at £450,000 and Brentford knew it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, OLDHAMADE said: He was sold for buttons at £450,000 and Brentford knew it Not even anywhere near that amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The Judge in the latest round of Sports Direct vs The Rangers slaughtered the latter in his ruling and indicated they're liable for, "many millions." Hope we aren't too reliant on the other instalments coming in on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Edmundson starts in Rangers European campaign tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 8:42 PM, BP1960 said: Edmundson starts in Rangers European campaign tonight. MOTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Tarky was much more comfortable on the ball than Edmundson, and that’s a requirement for a premier league defender these days. Edmundson has plenty of time to develop though, and will most likely end up in the championship I reckon. Playing mainly league one level football up there isn’t where he future lies in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 hours ago, ghostofcecere said: Tarky was much more comfortable on the ball than Edmundson, and that’s a requirement for a premier league defender these days. Edmundson has plenty of time to develop though, and will most likely end up in the championship I reckon. Playing mainly league one level football up there isn’t where he future lies in my To many fancy dan centre backs in the Premiership, they can be a liability. Won't be long before the big solid defenders come back into fashion again after more embarrassments by the likes of Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, BP1960 said: To many fancy dan centre backs in the Premiership, they can be a liability. Won't be long before the big solid defenders come back into fashion again after more embarrassments by the likes of Stones. Agree BP - I`ve said for years that Stones is shit. One of those who thinks he's better than he is - and many have fed his ego. Remember a tv pundit calling him one of the most graceful, ball playing centre backs England has produced. What planet are these pillocks on?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, BP1960 said: To many fancy dan centre backs in the Premiership, they can be a liability. Won't be long before the big solid defenders come back into fashion again after more embarrassments by the likes of Stones. Stones is just shite. Likes of VVD show there is no need for big cloggers like the old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanny Adams Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 28 minutes ago, BP1960 said: To many fancy dan centre backs in the Premiership, they can be a liability. Won't be long before the big solid defenders come back into fashion again after more embarrassments by the likes of Stones. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, BP1960 said: To many fancy dan centre backs in the Premiership, they can be a liability. Won't be long before the big solid defenders come back into fashion again after more embarrassments by the likes of Stones. Perhaps the answer is a ball playing centre back with a solid defender type alongside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I don't think you can write off the idea of defenders being able to pass just because Stones is shit. Bobby Moore was as Blue Passport a defender as you could hope for but a fantastic player too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Think the days of someone who is just a clogger have gone defenders need to be comfortable on the ball at the back. With pitches in better shape than ever and probably getting better still it encourages teams to play out from the back. With coaches such as Guardiola advocating it and when you look at what hes won only an idiot would argue against it being effective. The ball playing centre back isnt a new phenomenon but now you dont see them playing the ball into the channel even when under pressure, defenders are now expected to pass their way out of trouble even when being pressed. You still need centre backs with strength and height VVD is unique in that hes the complete modern centre back. But the idea of us going back to an age of cloggers isn't going to happen. We all talk about Peter Clarke's leadership what we possibly undervalued is how comfortable he was in possession of the ball. Edmondson wasnt bad at this either but he wasnt as good as Tarkowski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Think the days of someone who is just a clogger have gone defenders need to be comfortable on the ball at the back. With pitches in better shape than ever and probably getting better still it encourages teams to play out from the back. With coaches such as Guardiola advocating it and when you look at what hes won only an idiot would argue against it being effective. The ball playing centre back isnt a new phenomenon but now you dont see them playing the ball into the channel even when under pressure, defenders are now expected to pass their way out of trouble even when being pressed. You still need centre backs with strength and height VVD is unique in that hes the complete modern centre back. But the idea of us going back to an age of cloggers isn't going to happen. We all talk about Peter Clarke's leadership what we possibly undervalued is how comfortable he was in possession of the ball. Edmondson wasnt bad at this either but he wasnt as good as Tarkowski. Didn't say cloggers, but many Premiership clubs had tough players like Tony Adam's and John Terry who were good enough to play on the world stage for many years. Are we saying such a player would have no place at top level today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Didn't say cloggers, but many Premiership clubs had tough players like Tony Adam's and John Terry who were good enough to play on the world stage for many years. Are we saying such a player would have no place at top level today? No like I said height and strength play a part see Virgil Van Dijk, Sergio Ramos and to a lesser extent Harry Maguire. Id say overall though defenders are expected to be better on the ball than previous generations. John Stones needs to learn to do it more effectively. Thats why he isnt first choice at city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Stones is utter garbage, one of the main reasons England can never be serious contenders unless the luck of the draw means we don’t play anyone better than Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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