Lags Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 For now I'll leave the names blank, but I'll use the top 10 'players share of goal mistakes from all goals conceded by Latics last season' OAFC's official stats First player 26 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.51 Second player 12 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.29 Third player 11 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 fourth player 10 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.22 Fifth player 8 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.24 Sixth player 7 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 Seventh player 6 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 eighth player 4 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 ninth player 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 tenth player 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 Fill in the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Clarke probably No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Lags said: For now I'll leave the names blank, but I'll use the top 10 'players share of goal mistakes from all goals conceded by Latics last season' OAFC's official stats First player Clarke 26 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.51 Second player Edmundson 12 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.29 Third player Hunt 11 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 fourth player Hamer 10 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.22 Fifth player Gardner 8 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.24 Sixth player Missilou 7 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 Seventh player Maouche 6 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 eighth player Nepo 4 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 ninth player Taylor 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 tenth player Iversen 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 Fill in the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Not sure how l feel about lists of mistakes being official stats. I wouldn’t want to play for a team that did something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 The club are trying to justify releasing Clarke I suspect. What he gives in other areas though is immeasurable and I suspect Edmondson, Iverson, Ripley and others will all endorse what a true pro he is in every respect, thing is with a player like Peter Clarke he will not expose a young player around him and does everything possible to protect them. Only a fool wouldn't see what he has to offer a team and if the likes of Vera, Benteke and O'Grady are offered deals than you really have to question why the skipper wasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, Lags said: For now I'll leave the names blank, but I'll use the top 10 'players share of goal mistakes from all goals conceded by Latics last season' OAFC's official stats First player 26 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.51 Second player 12 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.29 Third player 11 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 fourth player 10 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.22 Fifth player 8 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.24 Sixth player 7 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 Seventh player 6 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.13 eighth player 4 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 ninth player 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.09 tenth player 3 mistakes, average per 90 minutes 0.20 Fill in the players. Have they given the definition of a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, Magic Mikey said: Have they given the definition of a mistake? Exactly. A mistake can be made up front. which after passages of play, ends up in conceding a goal where a defender can ultimately be blamed. A mistake could be made leading to a corner. The corner is taken and either the goalie flaps at it, or someone fails to pick up a goal scorer. Who is to blame, the player who gave away the corner, or the player who made the mistake defending it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC_ULTRA Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Does this list include the countless mistakes the pillock of an owner and his incompetent brother made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 What about the referees, how many mistakes do they make in 90 mins.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, al_bro said: What about the referees, how many mistakes do they make in 90 mins.? OPTA man gave up after 45minutes suffering repetitive strain injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Where's this been posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: The club are trying to justify releasing Clarke I suspect. What he gives in other areas though is immeasurable and I suspect Edmondson, Iverson, Ripley and others will all endorse what a true pro he is in every respect, thing is with a player like Peter Clarke he will not expose a young player around him and does everything possible to protect them. Only a fool wouldn't see what he has to offer a team and if the likes of Vera, Benteke and O'Grady are offered deals than you really have to question why the skipper wasnt. I am on record and gladly repeat id have given Clarke one more season. Even just to have around the squad. At some point it ends. The problem with stats you can use them in alsorts of ways to suit. One thing is for sure if the club doesn't bring in a suitable replacement it will be seen as a fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Very close that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Lies, damned lies..... and statistics. The stats are about "mistakes" around goals conceded. Thereby completely skewed against defenders and goalkeepers. What if some useless lump up front loses the ball needlessly, opposition gains possession and storms forward, a defender slips during the counter attack and the opposition score. "Mistake" goes against the defender when, in fact, the useless lump up front made the initial mistake. Completely meaningless statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Not to mention it’s a proper shit thing to do. Players know when they make mistakes, they don’t need some clipboard prick telling them it’s their fault. Or even worse some flat cap prick, some sneering prick and a bumbling red fleeced prick bringing it up in a ‘performance review’ or contract negotiation. The more l think about this the more it pisses me off. Such a shit mindset to have. It best not even be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Its also possible for a goal to be scored without someone being to blame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: bumbling red fleeced prick Thought you'd called a truce. Just what your protagonist took exception to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, youngen said: Its also possible for a goal to be scored without someone being to blame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: Not to mention it’s a proper shit thing to do. Players know when they make mistakes, they don’t need some clipboard prick telling them it’s their fault. Or even worse some flat cap prick, some sneering prick and a bumbling red fleeced prick bringing it up in a ‘performance review’ or contract negotiation. The more l think about this the more it pisses me off. Such a shit mindset to have. It best not even be real. Or alternatively by logging the instances it allows for analysis and mitigation which will allow the player in question to work with coaching staff to eradicate the reason for the mistakes? Ultimately this will help him improve as a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Lies, damned lies..... and statistics. The stats are about "mistakes" around goals conceded. Thereby completely skewed against defenders and goalkeepers. What if some useless lump up front loses the ball needlessly, opposition gains possession and storms forward, a defender slips during the counter attack and the opposition score. "Mistake" goes against the defender when, in fact, the useless lump up front made the initial mistake. Completely meaningless statistics. I remember quite recently a defender putting a ball out for a corner because he was too fat to kick it into touch up the field. Not even a mistake technically but others got a load of stick for how they defended it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 35 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: Not to mention it’s a proper shit thing to do. Players know when they make mistakes, they don’t need some clipboard prick telling them it’s their fault. Or even worse some flat cap prick, some sneering prick and a bumbling red fleeced prick bringing it up in a ‘performance review’ or contract negotiation. The more l think about this the more it pisses me off. Such a shit mindset to have. It best not even be real. Get real. This will exist in every club in the land and will be used to review performance along with other stats. It won’t be used in isolation and it won’t be the be all and end all. Publicising it is another matter, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Peter Clarke 26 mistakes no new contract Jonathan Benteke 0 mistakes gets offered a new deal Seems justified now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 50 minutes ago, youngen said: Its also possible for a goal to be scored without someone being to blame... David Dunn 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said: Thought you'd called a truce. Just what your protagonist took exception to. Almost didn’t put him in but whether l like it or not he is part of the set up and there is no way l am censoring myself based on one dingle persons getting over upset when he is in the wrong anyway. And l didn’t call any truce l simply stopped reading his replies at the point l said l was going to leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 51 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Get real. This will exist in every club in the land and will be used to review performance along with other stats. It won’t be used in isolation and it won’t be the be all and end all. Publicising it is another matter, I agree. Yeah that’s probably right, l think it’s just the publicising bit that’s riling me. Clip board prick is still clip board prick tho, suppose l’d jus take the piss out of him later in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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