leeslover Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's a simple point. They are so abridged as to be meaningless.. So you can bailey take anything from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, Dave_Og said: It's a simple point. They are so abridged as to be meaningless.. As they have been for a long time under previous regimes which told us a similar amount of nothing. Wasn't quite sure what people were expecting to see. We had another CCJ against us in the last week or so...'only' for £1000 or so but it tells us more than the accounts will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, leeslover said: So you can bailey take anything from them? I cantiibelever that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Twisbrogan said: As they have been for a long time under previous regimes which told us a similar amount of nothing. Wasn't quite sure what people were expecting to see. We had another CCJ against us in the last week or so...'only' for £1000 or so but it tells us more than the accounts will. Quite so. I wasn't holding my breath for anything revelatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 If you were leading the club to glorious debt free heaven you'd think the accounts would clearly show that, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, Fruitygoo said: Its not just football.. Its all business accounts... *** The trust agreed six principles in their meeting with Al. Number one was transparency and openness. He kicks off with abridged and unaudited accounts... Yes transparency and openness with them (not that they've had it I dont think) but not transparency with any tom dick and harry. Small companies very, very rarely file anything different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: So it’s abridged too far ? That was quite good to be fair. Welcome to pun club; you'll love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: That was quite good to be fair. Welcome to pun club; you'll love it The first rule of pun club, don't join pun club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bristolatic said: From the man who hates puns. Love it. actually thought I might have slipped it through the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: That was quite good to be fair. Welcome to pun club; you'll love it 2 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: The first rule of pun club, don't join pun club Is it ok to leave though ? Let me know, I’m just off to repeatedly punch myself in the face with an hot iron. Urghhh I feel manky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I was looking at the transfers for this period, so see if that shed any light, but basically the players that were pissed off left, but no income, plus quite a lot of loanees. If the transfermarkt site is correct, I can't see how we got a fee for anyone. The only thing that I can think at the moment may have happened was a sell on clause might have kicked in but somehow re financed? Can't work out how he has knocked of £5m for the + 1 year debt. Would that be housing? Maybe Brassbank when thy come out will shed some light. His main claim of being debt free we all assumed meant day to day operationally, but as Dave says £3.5m in call uppable less than a year debt makes a mockery of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Let's not forget that these accounts are unaudited. He could have literally put anything in there. But then that's just my agenda... Well he could. He’s not absolved from directorial responsibility for ensuring the accounts are materially accurate though albeit unaudited. Of course if he doesn’t mind breaking the law that’s moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Is it ok to leave though ? Let me know, I’m just off to repeatedly punch myself in the face with an hot iron. Urghhh I feel manky No. Once you're in, you're in for life. Severe penalties for leaving without permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Just now, singe said: I was looking at the transfers for this period, so see if that shed any light, but basically the players that were pissed off left, but no income, plus quite a lot of loanees. If the transfermarkt site is correct, I can't see how we got a fee for anyone. The only thing that I can think at the moment may have happened was a sell on clause might have kicked in but somehow re financed? Can't work out how he has knocked of £5m for the + 1 year debt. Would that be housing? Maybe Brassbank when thy come out will shed some light. His main claim of being debt free we all assumed meant day to day operationally, but as Dave says £3.5m in call uppable less than a year debt makes a mockery of that. The rise in short term creditors is lower than the rise in debtors though. As pointed out not enough detail to form a proper opinion but on the face of it they are better than previous year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, singe said: I was looking at the transfers for this period, so see if that shed any light, but basically the players that were pissed off left, but no income, plus quite a lot of loanees. If the transfermarkt site is correct, I can't see how we got a fee for anyone. The only thing that I can think at the moment may have happened was a sell on clause might have kicked in but somehow re financed? Can't work out how he has knocked of £5m for the + 1 year debt. Would that be housing? Maybe Brassbank when thy come out will shed some light. His main claim of being debt free we all assumed meant day to day operationally, but as Dave says £3.5m in call uppable less than a year debt makes a mockery of that. I love your phrase "call uppable" singe! I'm an accountant and I have never heard that phrase. But it does exactly what it says on the tin! I will inform the accountancy bodies immediately. They should adopt it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: It's very hard to judge on such a brief report. Our fixed assets have gone up by £1m or so. No idea what that could be. Vera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: It's very hard to judge on such a brief report. Our fixed assets have gone up by £1m or so. No idea what that could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, simplythemostimportantkick said: Is it ok to leave though ? Let me know, I’m just off to repeatedly punch myself in the face with an hot iron. Urghhh I feel manky Once you're in you're in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sparkleking said: I love your phrase "call uppable" singe! I'm an accountant and I have never heard that phrase. But it does exactly what it says on the tin! I will inform the accountancy bodies immediately. They should adopt it now. Why thank you! Early in my studies, but taking me a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Trust will get to see full accounts later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Barry Jnr getting to see accounts that are over 12 months old. This is what we paid our money for. Go on lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Any mileage in getting a series of questions for Darren to address?. I believe a qualified or former accountant will be looking at them with Darren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Oldham’s owner submits a set of accounts that shows his total contempt for any fan with an interest in the club. Having shortened the year end by 1 day to 26 June to ‘buy’ a couple of extra months before sending them in he then dates them 30 June. #OAFC https://t.co/IZ72SKoPBL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: Let's not forget that these accounts are unaudited. He could have literally put anything in there. But then that's just my agenda... You know there’s an agenda to get him out Paddy, so why you being a dick about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, singe said: I was looking at the transfers for this period, so see if that shed any light, but basically the players that were pissed off left, but no income, plus quite a lot of loanees. If the transfermarkt site is correct, I can't see how we got a fee for anyone. Probably doesn’t add much to the equation but we got an undisclosed fee for Holloway. Which was a miracle tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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