Dave_Og Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Some people seem determined to give the owner the benefit of the doubt so only fair to accentuate the positives. These are what I can come up with off the top of my head. 1. Renaming and putting signage up on the North Stand to recognise Joe Royle. 2. Putting signage up on the RRE to recognise Jimmy Frizzell 3. Free scarves for season ticket holders last season. Others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris15Arm Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Wether ppl doubt it, he has paid off a lot of debts. We aren't out of the woods n by no means splashing the cash, but we are now a lot more financially stable far away from the likes of bury Bolton dale Macc notts c. I worry for our playing side but I don't worry anymore about going under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Some people seem determined to give the owner the benefit of the doubt so only fair to accentuate the positives. These are what I can come up with off the top of my head. 1. Renaming and putting signage up on the North Stand to recognise Joe Royle. 2. Putting signage up on the RRE to recognise Jimmy Frizzell 3. Free scarves for season ticket holders last season. Others? I was right behind him to begin with as he appeared to start his tenure by weeding out the dickheads and bad influences - Byrne, Gerrard, Davies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alan Francis Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 It’s a simple equation. If Mr Lemsagam would get himself a manager who knows how to manage in the lower leagues such as David Flitcroft and leave that manager to buy and sell and coach his own players and keep his nose out of the running of the team he might just start seeing a return on his investment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, Chris15Arm said: Wether ppl doubt it, he has paid off a lot of debts. We aren't out of the woods n by no means splashing the cash, but we are now a lot more financially stable far away from the likes of bury Bolton dale Macc notts c. I worry for our playing side but I don't worry anymore about going under That really is not yet proved. We don't know if he paid a single penny if the £5m. We still owe a vast sum compared to many. Skeletons may yet appear. We cannot rule out converting that debt to other forms. He's not saved much on back of house staff, turnover is high and recruitment costs repeated not reduced staff numbers by any meaningful numbers. I can't comment on coaches because I assume he pushed the boat out for Scholes and although I was sceptical of success he had to try. Pete was not a plan, just 100% luck. Jury is still out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) He’s potentially going toruin the club, the french based players are mainly poor and we are on the edge of going into non league. Edited July 29, 2019 by Lukers1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 He doesn't wear a flat cap like that retard Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) I have no doubt the chairman/president has invested quite a few million into the Club. Just wish he would be more transparent with his full accounts/cash flow to demonstrate it. But this is about positives so during his reign, compare to the previous owners reign in his last few years. The club seems to: Not Had any transfer embargos Have Paid the parent club for loan players Have paid away gate ticket sales to relevant clubs Have Paid outstanding debts from previous owner (think it was the groundskeeping company) Only been taken to court once (Was in May this yr on a HMRC bill that was settled). Getting BP its name back rather than....Sportsdirect.com park Edited July 28, 2019 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Alan Francis said: It’s a simple equation. If Mr Lemsagam would get himself a manager who knows how to manage in the lower leagues such as David Flitcroft and leave that manager to buy and sell and coach his own players and keep his nose out of the running of the team he might just start seeing a return on his investment. Can I ask, with regards to your username, do you work in education? I know a Mr Francis that does, that's all and wonder if you are one in the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 5 million. Got rid of all the bad eggs and overpaid underachieving staff. John Sheridan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, underdog said: Only been taken to court once... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Selling Edmundson for over £600k Fulham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 @Dave_Og Can you start a negatives thread too for balance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just now, sjk2008 said: @Dave_Og Can you start a negatives thread too for balance? It wouldn't be balanced though, heavily weighted towards the negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Kusunga_Is_God said: Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Just now, disjointed said: It wouldn't be balanced though, heavily weighted towards the negative. Would be nice to see a list of both positives and negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: @Dave_Og Can you start a negatives thread too for balance? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, underdog said: I have no doubt the chairman/president has invested quite a few million into the Club. Just wish he would be more transparent with his full accounts/cash flow to demonstrate it. But this is about positives so during his reign, compare to the previous owners reign in his last few years. The club seems to: Not Had any transfer embargos Have Paid the parent club for loan players Have paid away gate ticket sales to relevant clubs Have Paid outstanding debts from previous owner (think it was the groundskeeping company) Only been taken to court once (Was in May this yr on a HMRC bill that was settled). Getting BP its name back rather than....Sportsdirect.com park These are fair enough and as they come from you I will take them as being so. He is just so opaque...does himself no favours. I’d be flaunting an audited set of full accounts to show the debt decrease if I was him. The fact he hasn’t is either a spectacular own goal or... well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, archiecat said: He doesn't wear a flat cap like that retard Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, kowenicki said: These are fair enough and as they come from you I will take them as being so. He is just so opaque...does himself no favours. I’d be flaunting an audited set of full accounts to show the debt decrease if I was him. The fact he hasn’t is either a spectacular own goal or... well... Spot on Kow. He may well have put a good amount in. However, why wouldn’t you scream from the rooftops what you’ve put in. . It might not all be rosy, but at very least it shows you put your money your mouth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 28, 2019 Author Share Posted July 28, 2019 38 minutes ago, underdog said: I have no doubt the chairman/president has invested quite a few million into the Club. Just wish he would be more transparent with his full accounts/cash flow to demonstrate it. But this is about positives so during his reign, compare to the previous owners reign in his last few years. The club seems to: Not Had any transfer embargos Have Paid the parent club for loan players Have paid away gate ticket sales to relevant clubs Have Paid outstanding debts from previous owner (think it was the groundskeeping company) Only been taken to court once (Was in May this yr on a HMRC bill that was settled). Getting BP its name back rather than....Sportsdirect.com park A few in there but I don't see only being on court once as being a positive and likewise paying loan fees and ticket sales. They are basic requirements. I'm trying to find successes that give some indication of strategy and future hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 We would have been in a Bury type situation or worse if Corney had stayed. Impossible to say how it would have ended up without Lemmy turning up but we're still here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Can people please stop saying he's reduced the debt. The edited and unchecked accounts you are working off are over 12 months old. Since then we've gone down, sacked several staff, paid off players, paid off potential unfair dismissal claims, lost our credit ability, pension issue and lost revenue from the North stand. There is not telling how much debt is attached to the club now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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