Andy b Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 https://trustoldham.co.uk/our-home-2019-20/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Thanks Andy - nobody could disagree with the sentiments. It's farcical that we have a "shiny new stand" not being utilised for maximum benefit. In the background, though, and others have said it, it's looking more and more like the Trust's position is becoming untenable with the club i.e. there are obvious synergies between the Trust and the FLG (despite best attempts by the Trust to now remain impartial!). The gloves are clearly off between the owner and the FLG, as quite a few predicted. This is a mess and needs sorting quickly. Mediation might be the way forward. Get someone involved who does not have a vested interest to broker a deal to get the Joe Royle standing fully utilised. Volunteer here if you want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I’m tempted to say the point (the real issue) is being missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Thanks Andy - nobody could disagree with the sentiments. It's farcical that we have a "shiny new stand" not being utilised for maximum benefit. In the background, though, and others have said it, it's looking more and more like the Trust's position is becoming untenable with the club i.e. there are obvious synergies between the Trust and the FLG (despite best attempts by the Trust to now remain impartial!). The gloves are clearly off between the owner and the FLG, as quite a few predicted. This is a mess and needs sorting quickly. Mediation might be the way forward. Get someone involved who does not have a vested interest to broker a deal to get the Joe Royle standing fully utilised. Volunteer here if you want one. It was totally predictable and you'd have to be a bit dim not to have seen it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Thanks Andy - nobody could disagree with the sentiments. It's farcical that we have a "shiny new stand" not being utilised for maximum benefit. In the background, though, and others have said it, it's looking more and more like the Trust's position is becoming untenable with the club i.e. there are obvious synergies between the Trust and the FLG (despite best attempts by the Trust to now remain impartial!). The gloves are clearly off between the owner and the FLG, as quite a few predicted. This is a mess and needs sorting quickly. Mediation might be the way forward. Get someone involved who does not have a vested interest to broker a deal to get the Joe Royle standing fully utilised. Volunteer here if you want one. could be and both sides have solicitors. Club has one on its own board Edited August 9, 2019 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, underdog said: could be and both sides have solicitors. Club has one on its own board Which is probably part of the problem. They could just get in the way of a good mediation. Avoid their involvement if possible. Edited August 9, 2019 by kowenicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, underdog said: could be and both sides have solicitors. Club has one on its own board Which might just be the worst possible scenario! Solicitors can be notorious for making such issues even worse i.e. by getting bogged down in the legal detail - when all everyone wants is for common sense to prevail and our showpiece stand to be used for what it was originally intended. Hopefully, the solicitors will be "forward thinking" ones, who see ADR as the way forward - and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 You have to remember that the now Royle Stand was built to serve two masters - the football club and the landlord. As we found out it wasn't built simply to provide an income stream for the football club. I do not believe that the agreement reached by Corney with the landlord would have been made at arm's length. It follows that if Marco & Mo see an agreement which benefits the Landlord more than the club they would reasonably seek an adjustment in their favour. I don't know what the facts are. We will probably never know but it can't help to have the FLG appearing to have long term aims of taking over the football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'm not sensing that our club owner is a man for mediation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: I'm not sensing that our club owner is a man for mediation. Isn't he a negotiator by profession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: Isn't he a negotiator by profession? With other people's money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I'm guessing the trust haven't seen the accounts, hence the tougher stance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, latics22 said: I'm guessing the trust haven't seen the accounts, hence the tougher stance? “Tougher”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Actually doing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It just goes to show how stupid the people are who still back the gangsters who run our football club truly are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, latics22 said: Actually doing something? Doing what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, kowenicki said: “Tougher”? Remember when you were telling people they were racist for questioning the gangsters in charge of our football club.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Were back up and running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbooth Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Guess we know why this statement was put out. They knew today's shitstorm was coming and wanted to get ahead of the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Jimbooth said: Guess we know why this statement was put out. They knew today's shitstorm was coming and wanted to get ahead of the game... Today's shit-storm? Was that the rampant toilet destruction in the North Stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 22 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Remember when you were telling people they were racist for questioning the gangsters in charge of our football club.... Sorry. No idea what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAM4ALWAYS Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 All it needs is for phantom 2 Blitz and Gazal to approach the Clubs owners and they alone sort the whole mess out but it will have to be them approaching the Club and not the other way round. The FLG and Trust have no ownership so they are not required to interrupt any meeting should it occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, OLDHAM4ALWAYS said: All it needs is for phantom 2 Blitz and Gazal to approach the Clubs owners and they alone sort the whole mess out but it will have to be them approaching the Club and not the other way round. The FLG and Trust have no ownership so they are not required to interrupt any meeting should it occur. You seem to be forgetting their collective appearance on the pitch at Fulham. Adn the fact there is a sale being processed as we speak. It's incumbent on all parties to resolve it, but we have proof of at least one offer and know of others to the current owner. All have been rebuffed by the owner. The onus is entirely with the owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, singe said: You seem to be forgetting their collective appearance on the pitch at Fulham. Adn the fact there is a sale being processed as we speak. It's incumbent on all parties to resolve it, but we have proof of at least one offer and know of others to the current owner. All have been rebuffed by the owner. The onus is entirely with the owner. Missed this due to work, offers to the current owner...what we referring to here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Missed this due to work, offers to the current owner...what we referring to here? Current owner being AL. ie offers to speak or negotiate. Hence the ball is in his couirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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