Dick_Valentine Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, adamoafc said: Send them over. Can always talk them through over a pint before a game Where do you drink pre match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 A golden opportunity is coming up in - Orient away. There are dozens of disaffected fans heading down, many attending for the first time this season. A very receptive audience if a protest were to be planned - something like the tennis balls/pigs on the pitch that others have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Dick_Valentine said: Where do you drink pre match? All over don’t really have a regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Valentine Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, adamoafc said: All over don’t really have a regular. Ok, I’ll do a pub crawl pre Scunthorpe in the hope of bumping into you so we can that chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dick_Valentine said: Ok, I’ll do a pub crawl pre Scunthorpe in the hope of bumping into you so we can that chat. You could always meet in the bar at the corner of the main stand and the Chaddy End? They do food too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 The food and drinks boycott failed miserably to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 By the looks of season ticket renewal time will be the most vulnerable. The Board try & blame PTB, but most will see they tried, and that's why gradual protest is important. Look we tried to make you see sense but you were not listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, singe said: By the looks of season ticket renewal time will be the most vulnerable. The Board try & blame PTB, but most will see they tried, and that's why gradual protest is important. Look we tried to make you see sense but you were not listening. Here's how it looks with nearly 90 votes so far. 43% Not renewing. 9% maybe. 10% definitely are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, singe said: Here's how it looks with nearly 90 votes so far. 43% Not renewing. 9% maybe. 10% definitely are. Not really sure this will give an accurate true reflection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 19 minutes ago, latics22 said: Not really sure this will give an accurate true reflection I make no claim it is, as thee only accurate figure will be the actual number at the time. The situation may change, but it underscores the depth of frustration and be foolish to ignore. It's not a stretch to say that as season ticket renewal may be only 10 weeks away, there may be a massive drop. There has been a 25% drop in attendances already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, singe said: I make no claim it is, as thee only accurate figure will be the actual number at the time. The situation may change, but it underscores the depth of frustration and be foolish to ignore. It's not a stretch to say that as season ticket renewal may be only 10 weeks away, there may be a massive drop. There has been a 25% drop in attendances already. Curious to know your view singe and that of the PtB lads on the crowd yesterday A very decent 5,278 turnout, split 4,505 Home fans and 773 Away fans Much improved on recent games at Boundary Park Appreciate those numbers are expected to dramatically fall back after a 1-4 Home defeat, but folk did turn out despite the high profile split amongst our supporter base and the PtB protests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, tGWB said: Curious to know your view singe and that of the PtB lads on the crowd yesterday A very decent 5,278 turnout, split 4,505 Home fans and 773 Away fans Much improved on recent games at Boundary Park Appreciate those numbers are expected to dramatically fall back after a 1-4 Home defeat, but folk did turn out despite the high profile split amongst our supporter base and the PtB protests But of minimal, if any, significance to potential season ticket numbers. Nobody could construct a sensible budget on the back of a somewhat freaky attendance figure for one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tGWB said: Curious to know your view singe and that of the PtB lads on the crowd yesterday A very decent 5,278 turnout, split 4,505 Home fans and 773 Away fans Much improved on recent games at Boundary Park Appreciate those numbers are expected to dramatically fall back after a 1-4 Home defeat, but folk did turn out despite the high profile split amongst our supporter base and the PtB protests It showed support is there if they did things properly we could easily put 1-2000 on the gate people like that would turn up far more regularly. Those people will go away from today seeing how poor this team is. That wasn't even worst performance this season. A good January transfer window could see us finish the season strongly staying well clear of relegation and setting us up for next season and possibly a promotion push. However if the hapless Mohammed Lemsagam is left in charge of recruitment again this simply won't happen we will sign more former Nantes and Auxerre youth team players who have no interest in helping to take the club forward and are of piss poor ability. Support for the football club is there everyone wants the club to succeed, however it requires competency at the helm this simply won't happen with the people running the football club at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I am neither Singe nor one of the PTB lads although i am related to one of them. I was actually amazed at the level of our home crowd yesterday - 4500 home fans after around 2700 for the Crawley game the week before. As far as I am aware, there was no special promotions (not an appropriate word for Latics really) yesterday whereas there was against Crawley. There are a couple of reasons I can think of that might explain a bit of an increase - (1) The Christmas period fixtures generally attract a higher level of support than usual - possibly due to people wanting to leave the house and their other halves after a period of spending lots of time together (2) The Salford factor - no one really likes Salford City, a club on our doorstep bankrolled by a billionaire and a number of ex-United players who are millionaires. Locals turning out to support OAFC because they are "their home team" but not necessarily the team that they support as such (3) Man United and Man City not playing at same time. (4) An upturn in results, two successive wins in the previous week which might have enticed a few back. I expected a crowd of maybe 3500 home fans yesterday and around 800 Salford so was not far off on predicting the away support. The PTB lads certainly are not protesting against the team nor encouraging anyone to boycott games. Their protests are much more strategic in nature - against the regime as such rather than the team and merely wanting the owners and leaders to be transparent about how they are operating the club when lots of things just don't stack up (recruitment and Board level decisions etc). I suspect the crowd for Scunthorpe will be much more on the scale of 3000 home fans and maybe 400 away which is much more a realistic guide to how fans are feeling in general about the OAFC regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I'm not sure if this was an organised promotion but I'm a season ticket holder and received a main stand complimentary for yesterday's match in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But of minimal, if any, significance to potential season ticket numbers. Nobody could construct a sensible budget on the back of a somewhat freaky attendance figure for one game. So don't have a view on the crowd yesterday then Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: It showed support is there if they did things properly we could easily put 1-2000 on the gate people like that would turn up far more regularly. Those people will go away from today seeing how poor this team is. That wasn't even worst performance this season. A good January transfer window could see us finish the season strongly staying well clear of relegation and setting us up for next season and possibly a promotion push. However if the hapless Mohammed Lemsagam is left in charge of recruitment again this simply won't happen we will sign more former Nantes and Auxerre youth team players who have no interest in helping to take the club forward and are of piss poor ability. Support for the football is there everyone wants the club to succeed it, however it requires competency at the helm this simply won't happen with the people running the football club If people are staying away and next years season ticket sales are as bad as many are predicting in protest against the owners, then even if he leaves all the recruitment to Dino (or whoever the manager is), nothing much will be coming in as there will be fuck all in the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, unsworth blue said: I was actually amazed at the level of our home crowd yesterday - 4500 home fans after around 2700 for the Crawley game the week before. There are a couple of reasons I can think of that might explain a bit of an increase - (1) The Christmas period fixtures generally attract a higher level of support than usual - possibly due to people wanting to leave the house and their other halves after a period of spending lots of time together (2) The Salford factor - no one really likes Salford City, a club on our doorstep bankrolled by a billionaire and a number of ex-United players who are millionaires. Locals turning out to support OAFC because they are "their home team" but not necessarily the team that they support as such (3) Man United and Man City not playing at same time. (4) An upturn in results, two successive wins in the previous week which might have enticed a few back. I expected a crowd of maybe 3500 home fans yesterday and around 800 Salford so was not far off on predicting the away support. That's a reasonable explanation Does demonstrate there is still interest around the area in the Club which is encouraging I wonder how many would have tried a few more games though if we had won 4-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, tGWB said: Curious to know your view singe and that of the PtB lads on the crowd yesterday A very decent 5,278 turnout, split 4,505 Home fans and 773 Away fans Much improved on recent games at Boundary Park Appreciate those numbers are expected to dramatically fall back after a 1-4 Home defeat, but folk did turn out despite the high profile split amongst our supporter base and the PtB protests I'm not part of PTB, just to be clear. It surprised me, as can be seen by my attendance prediction. My own view was that some was the normal Christmas increase coupled with the novelty value of the first game v Salford, some attended with the possibility of seeing Beckham ( I jest) but United didn't play, some rumours of comps. It will be a one off, it always would have been, but the result guarantees that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: I'm not sure if this was an organised promotion but I'm a season ticket holder and received a main stand complimentary for yesterday's match in the post. 12 minutes ago, singe said: It surprised me, as can be seen by my attendance prediction. My own view was that some was the normal Christmas increase coupled with the novelty value of the first game v Salford, some attended with the possibility of seeing Beckham ( I jest) but United didn't play, some rumours of comps. Interesting point about the complimentary tickets which I assume would have been counted in the attendance figure but highly unlikely they made a big difference overall Could be as simple then as a good number of fans wanting to get to a match after Christmas and maybe encouraged by the two wins on the bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Steve_R said: If people are staying away and next years season ticket sales are as bad as many are predicting in protest against the owners, then even if he leaves all the recruitment to Dino (or whoever the manager is), nothing much will be coming in as there will be fuck all in the pot. The owner only has himself to blame if season tickets are down and the budget is reduced the way hes run the club has driven people away. Blame the stayaways if you want let me know how that works out. Knowone is under any obligation to buy a season ticket. If people don't feel that it is value for money they won't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, singe said: Here's how it looks with nearly 90 votes so far. 43% Not renewing. 9% maybe. 10% definitely are. Twitter polls.. Labour landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Steve_R said: The food and drinks boycott failed miserably to be honest Never seen it so busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 1 hour ago, tGWB said: So don't have a view on the crowd yesterday then Dave I think calling it freaky counts as a view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 hours ago, kowenicki said: Twitter polls.. Labour landslide. Yeah, they're comparable. Of course, when it comes to it some will decide to renew. But it would not be surprising if we're another 25% down and we are down to approaching 2,500 not that we may be ever know now Billy is not there. So how many are you confidently prodicting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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