Dave_Og Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 8 hours ago, LittlePhilHill said: I don’t know about either of them. As soon as I hear ‘Fan led group’ I think it’s brilliant but wasn’t one of the FLG involved with/business partners with Corney, Blitz and Gazal up until a couple of years ago and are people fine with this? Were they business partners or was the one you refer to just contracted to do something? I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Were they business partners or was the one you refer to just contracted to do something? I have no idea wasnt he the owner of Holroy who built the North Stand who then had to sell the company to corney that subsequently went bust ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Dave_Og said: But to someone who appears to be willing to sell them onto FLG almost immediately. Genuinely bizarre, even by recent standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Excellent post. And incredible that after 8hrs not a single poster has replied or commented on it. Its almost as tho we shouldn’t talk about this One of the 3 got into financial trouble and had to sell his business to Corney which after Corney lumped further debt on it to get the stand open, he then bumped the company. Business eh Singe Come on Singe you started this post I’d think to promote the FLG v AL This is proper ‘elephant in the room’ stuff and if I’m honest my own main obstacle at this time to supporting the FLG I have previously suggested clarity on ‘what went wrong’ with the building of the North Stand and subsequent collapse of the main contractor, in a thread I raised ‘titled ‘A plea to the Trust’ Having read many of your posts Singe, you appear to be trusted by many and have good knowledge regarding the financial history of our club. You really should at the very least offer your opinion on this if you’re offering up the FLG as a positive alternative to the current owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Excellent post. And incredible that after 8hrs not a single poster has replied or commented on it. Its almost as tho we shouldn’t talk about this One of the 3 got into financial trouble and had to sell his business to Corney which after Corney lumped further debt on it to get the stand open, he then bumped the company. Business eh I am not sure if Simon Corney is on Paul Whitehead's Christmas card list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Dave_Og said: .....It's clear that the current regime has no clear plan for anything. Correct. Some of us had suspicions of such some 18 months ago; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittlePhilHill Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Were they business partners or was the one you refer to just contracted to do something? I have no idea No, they were all directors at the same company. Again, I don’t know enough about any of this/them (FLG or AL). FLG intentions seem fair. Just wouldn’t mind clarification about the connection (past or present) between Blitz, Corney, Gazal and the FLG and listening to people’s views about it. Would prefer BO had nothing to do with the club though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 5 hours ago, singe said: I am not sure if Simon Corney is on Paul Whitehead's Christmas card list. How about Blitz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, tGWB said: Singe Come on Singe you started this post I’d think to promote the FLG v AL This is proper ‘elephant in the room’ stuff and if I’m honest my own main obstacle at this time to supporting the FLG I have previously suggested clarity on ‘what went wrong’ with the building of the North Stand and subsequent collapse of the main contractor, in a thread I raised ‘titled ‘A plea to the Trust’ Having read many of your posts Singe, you appear to be trusted by many and have good knowledge regarding the financial history of our club. You really should at the very least offer your opinion on this if you’re offering up the FLG as a positive alternative to the current owner It is. On top of that, Companies house isn't exactly inspiring for any of the three FLG characters we know about either is it... far from it. Who is Anna Kocerhan by the way? She was on the Latics Board once and is now a business partner of both Simon Blitz and Simon Wood as a director of OEC and Wood Restaurants. I only know her name, but know nothing else about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 53 minutes ago, kowenicki said: It is. On top of that, Companies house isn't exactly inspiring for any of the three FLG characters we know about either is it... far from it. Who is Anna Kocerhan by the way? She was on the Latics Board once and is now a business partner of both Simon Blitz and Simon Wood as a director of OEC and Wood Restaurants. I only know her name, but know nothing else about her. And yet we know a lot more about their business/es that we do Abdallah's. There are questions about the FLG, inevitably. And let's do that. But right now, I feel I have more questions for the Lemsagans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, kowenicki said: It is. On top of that, Companies house isn't exactly inspiring for any of the three FLG characters we know about either is it... far from it. Who is Anna Kocerhan by the way? She was on the Latics Board once and is now a business partner of both Simon Blitz and Simon Wood as a director of OEC and Wood Restaurants. I only know her name, but know nothing else about her. Here’s the announcement of her appointment: https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2015/april/latics-appoint-anna-kocerhan-to-board-of-directors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, singe said: And yet we know a lot more about their business/es that we do Abdallah's. There are questions about the FLG, inevitably. And let's do that. But right now, I feel I have more questions for the Lemsagans. Sigh. Again... Correct... we do... but AL already owns us. These guys look like they might want to. Nothing wrong with trying to scrutinise ahead of the game for a change. We haven't had that luxury during the last two takeovers have we. Why can't we do both. Good luck unravelling businesses located in foreign lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, singe said: And yet we know a lot more about their business/es that we do Abdallah's..... ....speaking of which, at the Fans Forum last week, Abdallah mentioned he has 'other business interests'. Somewhat surprisingly (as I watched), no-body took the opportunity to ask him what they were.... since all we know about his past, is that he was a former football agent. Surely those business interests he speaks of, do not relate to http://sport2jlt.com/team as that would be a conflict of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 7 hours ago, tGWB said: Singe Come on Singe you started this post I’d think to promote the FLG v AL This is proper ‘elephant in the room’ stuff and if I’m honest my own main obstacle at this time to supporting the FLG I have previously suggested clarity on ‘what went wrong’ with the building of the North Stand and subsequent collapse of the main contractor, in a thread I raised ‘titled ‘A plea to the Trust’ Having read many of your posts Singe, you appear to be trusted by many and have good knowledge regarding the financial history of our club. You really should at the very least offer your opinion on this if you’re offering up the FLG as a positive alternative to the current owner 2nd request Singe You started this thread, you should at least have the courtesy to respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, tGWB said: 2nd request Singe You started this thread, you should at least have the courtesy to respond No idea why you think that, I did it to find other people's views not mine. But In a nutshell: I said didn't think that Simon Corney would be on their Christmas card list.I welcome all openness and transparency, I figured it would be a project company open and close it for the North Stand-common transaction in that field. Of course I'd like to know the details, it was not a secret like AL's businesses, and most recently said we know more of the FLG businesses than that of AL. I get why some FLG things are not public yet, I don't get why much of AL's is not. So a straight choice, based on track records to date with all the info to hand currently I'm happy the FLG offer a better future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, singe said: No idea why you think that, I did it to find other people's views not mine. But In a nutshell: I said didn't think that Simon Corney would be on their Christmas card list.I welcome all openness and transparency, I figured it would be a project company open and close it for the North Stand-common transaction in that field. Of course I'd like to know the details, it was not a secret like AL's businesses, and most recently said we know more of the FLG businesses than that of AL. I get why some FLG things are not public yet, I don't get why much of AL's is not. So a straight choice, based on track records to date with all the info to hand currently I'm happy the FLG offer a better future. Appreciate you getting back For me, I understand the suspicion surrounding AL but I think this is magnified due to our dreadful team performance and clearly he and the board need to be more open, particularly regarding the clubs finances. Fingers crossed that Dino will be able to have a greater involvement in all things playing staff than previous managers Jurys out on the FLG as the three known members by their own admission dont have the personal wealth to buy the stadium or the club and thats before considering the monthly funds they’ll need to pay day to day bills Guess we’ll just have to wait to see who their backers are but until then its just more uncertainty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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