BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, al_bro said: Exactly. The Lemmy's say they give the manager the final say on players after Mo has brought them here to train. No manager can judge a player in a few training sessions, they need to see them play in a competitive game (not for us), and more than once. Except Vera, who we all were right about after 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, al_bro said: Exactly. The Lemmy's say they give the manager the final say on players after Mo has brought them here to train. No manager can judge a player in a few training sessions, they need to see them play in a competitive game (not for us), and more than once. Agree, I could understand it if we had a reserve League set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, singe said: Agree, I could understand it if we had a reserve League set up. There is a reserve league for Northern based clubs, good enough for Wigan to play in it, but for some reason we have chosen to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, kowenicki said: this is true... but doesn’t affect my point. Well I think it does. A significant number of them have demonstrated that they aren't very good in their favoured positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 "Can't get worse." Careful! Attendance 3,650 using the same person to add up the numbers. Used 24 players from a squad of 35 (two on loan) - 36 if you count McKinney - so there are another 12 players who are even worse (see above) than those 24. Hopes for Tuesday are a good selection of beer at the Rising Sun and no rain. Fears for Tuesday are too many to mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Gary1906 said: We have a fairly experienced manager at last Experienced mainly at non-league level and Stevenage who still reek of non-league after all these years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Experienced mainly at non-league level and Stevenage who still reek of non-league after all these years.... Somebody who at least has knowledge of our level and where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Gary1906 said: Somebody who at least has knowledge of our level and where we are. I'd always rather have someone who's never been shit enough to have knowledge of our level.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, HarryBosch said: I'd always rather have someone who's never been shit enough to have knowledge of our level.... . Like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Experienced mainly at non-league level and Stevenage who still reek of non-league after all these years.... that's the Stevenage who have recently complete the building of a fully functioning new stand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I'd always rather have someone who's never been shit enough to have knowledge of our level.... Good luck getting one of those then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I'd always rather have someone who's never been shit enough to have knowledge of our level.... Meanwhile in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Gary1906 said: Good luck getting one of those then! We had five between Shez and Maamria..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: We had five between Shez and Maamria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: We had five between Shez and Maamria..... ? They did us a lot of good didn’t they! Relegation and now near the bottom of the old 4th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: There is a reserve league for Northern based clubs, good enough for Wigan to play in it, but for some reason we have no money to pay for it so ignore it and pretend its not there . FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I'd always rather have someone who's never been shit enough to have knowledge of our level.... We did, he was sacked recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, BP1960 said: We did, he was sacked recently As was the last one before him to be sacked, and the two who walked away inbetween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 17 hours ago, bluehobbit said: I would go De Le Paz Hamer Wheater Stott Iavovitti (ahead of smith brown) both LB options are pretty awful Morais Syla Missile Johnny Smith Desire Then Wilson, Eagles, Hamer AN Other. Anyone just a 2nd body who can move and effect the game for us and stop the opposition defense being able to have one defender attacking the ball and one mopping up for 90 mins... We have to get more bodies in the box, Saturday someone put a little dink into the back post all it would have taken was a touch and we have scored. No one there... Not saying we would with 2 forwards but surely there is more of a chance. We have played 1 up front all season we create some chances from set plays but at the minute that's it. We have to change something and fast lets go 442 and try and win a game for once rather then set up trying to not get beat Anyone know how close Branger and Mills are to a return? If they are still missing then I tend to agree with your ten above plus Eagles. 4-1-3-1-1 with that lot too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Anyone know how close Branger and Mills are to a return? If they are still missing then I tend to agree with your ten above plus Eagles. 4-1-3-1-1 with that lot too... 4-1-3-1-1? Sounds a bit complex to me. Bearing in mind that systems have to be practised in training I'm unconvinced we have the flexibility to try something different most weeks. Although we may as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 The 2 upfront people cry out for only works if you have wingers and a central midfielder getting in and around the centre forwards. The 1 up front current system only works if you have decent defensive midfielders who can pass and an attacking midfielder who can take it on the turn, and wingers who get close to the striker. The fact Vera has looked our most threatening striker without hardly any game time this year shows just how useless up front we are. And our midfielders do not possess the qualities mentioned above, barring the wingers. Unfortunately, unless he starts playing Eagles Smith and Morais together and hope one of our strikers suddenly gets struck with some talent then we won't get close to have a team good enough to effectively implement either of the above formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: 4-1-3-1-1? Sounds a bit complex to me. Bearing in mind that systems have to be practised in training I'm unconvinced we have the flexibility to try something different most weeks. Although we may as well. It’ll be a fluid 4-1-3-1-1 when on the attack changing to a 4-5-1 when the opposition has the ball. Something like Sylla Eagles Missilou. Smith Morais Segbe #needtogetoutmoreiknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: It’ll be a fluid 4-1-3-1-1 when on the attack changing to a 4-5-1 when the opposition has the ball. Something like Sylla Eagles Missilou. Smith Morais Segbe #needtogetoutmoreiknow Do you think our players are that adaptable? Some of them appear to need to concentrate hard just to remember to put one foot in front of the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 hours ago, HarryBosch said: We had five between Shez and Maamria..... ? They did us a lot of good didn’t they! Relegation and now near the bottom of the old 4th Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I’d go for: Hallworth Irwin Jobson Barrett Barlow Adams Milligan Henry Holden Bunn Ritchie Subs: Rhodes Fleming Warhurst Redfearn Marshall Palmer That’ll do us! ️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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