GlossopLatic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Its not been a glorious decade anything but not even 1 top half finish. But we've still had some highlights Best Player James Tarkowski Best Manager Lee Johnson Best Match Latics 3 - 2 Liverpool (cup) Latics 5-4 Peterborough Best Moment Matt Smiths Late equaliser against Everton. Best Goal Dean Furmans ripper against Notts County September 2010 Worst moment Relegation against Northampton nudges out Ched Evans week. Best away day Fulham in January. Team of the decade Ripley K Lee Tarkowski Clarke (c) Grounds Stephens K Smith C Taylor Baxter Forte M Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Its not been a glorious decade anything but not even 1 top half finish. But we've still had some highlights Best Player James Tarkowski Best Manager Lee Johnson Best Match Latics 3 - 2 Liverpool (cup) Latics 5-4 Peterborough Best Moment Matt Smiths Late equaliser against Everton. Best Goal Dean Furmans ripper against Notts County September 2010 Worst moment Relegation against Northampton nudges out Ched Evans week. Best away day Fulham in January. Team of the decade Ripley K Lee Tarkowski Clarke (c) Grounds Stephens K Smith C Taylor Baxter Forte M Smith Motto, you don't give away your best players. What did we get for them and what's the total value of them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Its not been a glorious decade anything but not even 1 top half finish. But we've still had some highlights Best Player James Tarkowski Best Manager Lee Johnson Best Match Latics 3 - 2 Liverpool (cup) Latics 5-4 Peterborough Best Moment Matt Smiths Late equaliser against Everton. Best Goal Dean Furmans ripper against Notts County September 2010 Worst moment Relegation against Northampton nudges out Ched Evans week. Best away day Fulham in January. Team of the decade Ripley K Lee Tarkowski Clarke (c) Grounds Stephens K Smith C Taylor Baxter Forte M Smith What did Lee Johnson achieve as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Just now, latics22 said: What did Lee Johnson achieve as manager? More than the others did thats all that matters in that catergory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc88 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Did we not finish top half under Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, latics22 said: What did Lee Johnson achieve as manager? It's not a competitive field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Oafc88 said: Did we not finish top half under Johnson? Nope - 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, latics22 said: What did Lee Johnson achieve as manager? More than anybody else that decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc88 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Nope - 15th Bpimey, things went more off the rail than i remember when he jumped ship to Barnsley, i think it was only round late Feb one year we were 5th or 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Nope - 15th The real question is where would we have finished if he stayed in charge for the whole season. We were 9th and 2 points off the playoffs when he left for Barnsley. Granted we had hit a bit of a bad patch but I couldn't see him letting us drop as far as we did by the end of the season under Holden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: The real question is where would we have finished if he stayed in charge for the whole season. We were 9th and 2 points off the playoffs when he left for Barnsley. Granted we had hit a bit of a bad patch but I couldn't see him letting us drop as far as we did by the end of the season under Holden. Probably not that much better. The rot had set in, which seemed to coincide with the Ched Evans debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Motto, you don't give away your best players. What did we get for them and what's the total value of them now? Ripley- Wasn't our player Lee- Left on a free (outside club's control). Tarky - Sold for approximately £300k with a sell-on that Corney sold to fund a stand the club don't own. Clarke- Left on a free (club said he is too old). Grounds - Left on a free (outside club's control) Stephens - Sold for approximately £300k with a sell-on that was still active (we got some money when Charlton sold him to Brighton. We may even be in a better position as we don't have to pay Bury their share of our money too). K Smith- Sold for an undisclosed fee (not known if we have a sell-on clause). C Taylor - Sold on a free, having previously rejected offers (outside club's control). Baxter - 1st time sold for approximately £500k. 2nd time released on a free as club seemingly chose not to renew his contract. Forte- Left on a free (outside club's control). M. Smith - Left on a free (outside club's control). As to what those who are still playing (Forte's retired) are worth. Well Clarke, Baxter and Taylor would be free transfers. Grounds will probably be a free transfer as he was loaned to Bolton last season, but didn't play much. Tarky is apparently worth £50 million while he is still under contract. Stephens is probably worth about £10 million, while he is still under contract. Given the ages most seem likely to be available on a free transfer when their current contract expires. Although M. Smith was recently sold by QPR to Millwall for an undisclosed fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: sell-on that Corney sold to fund a stand the club don't own I don't think that is true, it went to Corney's 'running costs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Its not been a glorious decade anything but not even 1 top half finish. But we've still had some highlights Best Player James Tarkowski Best Manager Lee Johnson Best Match Latics 3 - 2 Liverpool (cup) Latics 5-4 Peterborough Best Moment Matt Smiths Late equaliser against Everton. Best Goal Dean Furmans ripper against Notts County September 2010 Worst moment Relegation against Northampton nudges out Ched Evans week. Best away day Fulham in January. Team of the decade Ripley K Lee Tarkowski Clarke (c) Grounds Stephens K Smith C Taylor Baxter Forte M Smith I’ve seen Kieran Lee mentioned a few times in these kind of things. He was largely average for us wasn’t he and only became decent after he left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I’ve seen Kieran Lee mentioned a few times in these kind of things. He was largely average for us wasn’t he and only became decent after he left? He started slowly but got alot better he got a move to Sheffield Wednesday for a reason. *I just googled Keiran Lee and found out he has an interesting namesake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: Ripley- Wasn't our player Lee- Left on a free (outside club's control). Tarky - Sold for approximately £300k with a sell-on that Corney sold to fund a stand the club don't own. Clarke- Left on a free (club said he is too old). Grounds - Left on a free (outside club's control) Stephens - Sold for approximately £300k with a sell-on that was still active (we got some money when Charlton sold him to Brighton. We may even be in a better position as we don't have to pay Bury their share of our money too). K Smith- Sold for an undisclosed fee (not known if we have a sell-on clause). C Taylor - Sold on a free, having previously rejected offers (outside club's control). Baxter - 1st time sold for approximately £500k. 2nd time released on a free as club seemingly chose not to renew his contract. Forte- Left on a free (outside club's control). M. Smith - Left on a free (outside club's control). As to what those who are still playing (Forte's retired) are worth. Well Clarke, Baxter and Taylor would be free transfers. Grounds will probably be a free transfer as he was loaned to Bolton last season, but didn't play much. Tarky is apparently worth £50 million while he is still under contract. Stephens is probably worth about £10 million, while he is still under contract. Given the ages most seem likely to be available on a free transfer when their current contract expires. Although M. Smith was recently sold by QPR to Millwall for an undisclosed fee. I don't buy this out of our clubs control. They were under contract and could have been secured for longer if offered better terms earlier. You don't let good players go for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I don't buy this out of our clubs control. They were under contract and could have been secured for longer if offered better terms earlier. You don't let good players go for nothing. I suppose it all depends om how much they want and how much our club thinks they're worth. Some might not stay however good the terms were or just want to move up a division or to a better or bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Its not been a glorious decade anything but not even 1 top half finish. But we've still had some highlights Best Player James Tarkowski Best Manager Lee Johnson - Shez a close second. Best Match Latics 3 - 2 Liverpool (cup) Latics 5-4 Peterborough Best Moment Matt Smiths Late equaliser against Everton. Best Goal Dean Furmans ripper against Notts County September 2010 - the strike was great, but the build up was way above League 1! Worst moment Relegation against Northampton nudges out Ched Evans week. - Northampton was the culmination of everything that began with that Ched Evans week. Best away day Fulham in January. - Forest away was a close second. Team of the decade (Taking a bit of liberty with the formation) Ripley Gregan Tarkowski Clarke Taylor Stephens K Smith Harkins Baxter M Smith Forte Hard to really argue with your picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: I suppose it all depends om how much they want and how much our club thinks they're worth. Some might not stay however good the terms were or just want to move up a division or to a better or bigger club. Home of the unloved! we take on player's nobody else wants, find the odd gem now and again, polish the gem and let it go, for peanuts. Had we been able to keep hold of some of the said 'gem's for a longer period, we most certainly wouldn't playing or losing to the likes of Salford shitty in this crap league of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: I don't buy this out of our clubs control. They were under contract and could have been secured for longer if offered better terms earlier. You don't let good players go for nothing. Sorry, but very few thought Matt Smith deserved a new contract before that Liverpool game. IIRC you didn't rate him much initially yourself and you earnt money from scouting players. The moment he had that Liverpool game we had no chance of signing him to a new deal. We could have signed Grounds to a longer deal initially but who's to say he'd have wanted that. Players know when they become eligible for Bosman's (so often get a signing bonus). They get their agents to arrange contracts that suits. We tried extending Lee's deal a while before it became obvious he had Championship ability, he didn't want it. We could have sold Taylor, as mentioned. As for Forte he dropped down a level due to injuries. Clubs like ours HAVE to let players go for nothing, it's the way of the world. All bar the top European clubs will have let a decent player go for nothing - see Sol Campbell and Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Wouldnt have give Smith a new deal. He had a run round Liverpool and relegating Bury where he looked half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Hard to really argue with your picks! Im glad one of you got the point I was trying to make in this thread it was about listing, Best player Best match etc rather than just merely saying how shit everything is and how cheaplywe lose players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Im glad one of you got the point I was trying to make in this thread it was about listing, Best player Best match etc rather than just merely saying how shit everything is and how cheaplywe lose players. Think we all got the point. Personally cba even giving the last decade at BP much of a thought. Not exactly gonna be a decade we will wish to look back on with much fondness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAMADE Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Im glad one of you got the point I was trying to make in this thread it was about listing, Best player Best match etc rather than just merely saying how shit everything is and how cheaplywe lose players. Glossop, Your decade of wonders thread is marvellous and thanks for sharing it with us Sorry for stoking the fires of negativity yet again but when you see some of the names mentioned and seeing how far we've fallen in that time, it's all too easy to get sucked into this terrible mindset. Humble apologies again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, OLDHAMADE said: Glossop, Your decade of wonders thread is marvellous and thanks for sharing it with us Sorry for stoking the fires of negativity yet again but when you see some of the names mentioned and seeing how far we've fallen in that time, it's all too easy to get sucked into this terrible mindset. Humble apologies again I hope this was meant to come across as sarcastic as it does ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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