Theoutsider Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary1906 said: He’s also said that he still wants to build a hotel on the site remember? Yes he did. Why do you consider this a problem? There are many football grounds with a hotel on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 http://mol.im/a/8057667 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 49 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Surely if club disappears there would be something there to say he could build Well the club has a lease till 2031 - https://trustoldham.co.uk/board-representative-update-feb/ That lease has a value, so hopefully if we go into admin and look like going to the wall, it can be transferred to any new entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, disjointed said: Time for the red fleece to make an appearance. Time for him to be fooked off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Theoutsider said: Yes he did. Why do you consider this a problem? There are many football grounds with a hotel on site. Indeed, for example at the Ricoh this very day Hilton are planning a 150 bed hotel. Whilst we would love similar development by a prestigious brand, our ownership structure is similarly toxic. https://www.hospitalityandcateringnews.com/2020/02/ricoh-arena-announce-opening-new-hotel-1300-plus-events-year/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: What if AL just pays up the debt? win-win for Blitz. He’s a c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 @kowenicki is talking absolute sense in this thread.... and I don’t say that lightly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, underdog said: http://mol.im/a/8057667 Wonder whose stumping up the cash to make sure the club doesn’t go bust while in admin. . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1969 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Agree blitz is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Council will be loathed to lose a professional football club FsA have had us down as a club in crisis since last Sept...however EFL hate crisis and re-labelled ut as concern. EFL have had us on the radar since we met them last year. However the sense i got was they was as much use as a chocolate fireguard....however there was a DCMS report (i think). That said if any club webt into admin and there was a supporters trust in situ....it should be given as much support as possible and via FSA. I will remind the Trust of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Theoutsider said: Yes he did. Why do you consider this a problem? There are many football grounds with a hotel on site. No problem at all with a hotel being built on the site, just as long as there is still a football club there as well, and not instead of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: @kowenicki is talking absolute sense in this thread.... and I don’t say that lightly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gary1906 said: No problem at all with a hotel being built on the site, just as long as there is still a football club there as well, and not instead of. There aren't many with one big stand totally surrounded by houses (including on the pitch) though. That can't happen...can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Who said it was straightforward....that’s why they needed to talk!! Blitz being seen as totally reasonable and ‘willing to talk’. Abdallah being unreasonable and refusing to engage? Is it really as simple as that? What if Abdallah feels like he’s being ripped off and is just not having it, and it’s Blitz who’s being unreasonable? I’ve no idea where the truth lies but it’s rarely the case that one party alone is totally in the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 Yes it’s that simple....our owner is a fucking tool. This is just the start, once everything sorts itself out we can get our football club back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gary1906 said: Blitz being seen as totally reasonable and ‘willing to talk’. Abdallah being unreasonable and refusing to engage? Is it really as simple as that? What if Abdallah feels like he’s being ripped off and is just not having it, and it’s Blitz who’s being unreasonable? I’ve no idea where the truth lies but it’s rarely the case that one party alone is totally in the right. Abdallah and his team running the club have basically refused to engage with anyone. Everyone has been their enemy. The adversarial trust. The OEC and FLG totally against them. The HMRC. The landlord charging to much and hence refusing to pay him. We all know in life that sometimes you have to deal with people who hold all the cards. You just have to make the best deal with that person/company, any run your own business as best you can. You have to really look after your customers, not treat them with distain the way the club has treated the fans. Abdallah just refuses to deal with anyone, and that is the main reason our club is in such a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Pidge said: Abdallah and his team running the club have basically refused to engage with anyone. Everyone has been their enemy. The adversarial trust. The OEC and FLG totally against them. The HMRC. The landlord charging to much and hence refusing to pay him. We all know in life that sometimes you have to deal with people who hold all the cards. You just have to make the best deal with that person/company, any run your own business as best you can. You have to really look after your customers, not treat them with distain the way the club has treated the fans. Abdallah just refuses to deal with anyone, and that is the main reason our club is in such a bad situation. +1 And most of all the staff/players that were and are employed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: Well the club has a lease till 2031 - https://trustoldham.co.uk/board-representative-update-feb/ That lease has a value, so hopefully if we go into admin and look like going to the wall, it can be transferred to any new entity. But what if the club ceases to exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I can't wait to cheer the boys off after a hard fought nil nil at Grimsby on the last day to secure league football for another season. Great times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Gary1906 said: I’ve no idea where the truth lies but it’s rarely the case that one party alone is totally in the right. The truth probably lies in the agreements AL signed up to when he bought the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Is it beyond the realms of possibility Blitz and a consortium could buy the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 For those genuinely in the know, how goosed are we? Are we genuinely fucked or is this the monthly “Oldham Athletic are knackered” headline? It certainly feels more real than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, League one forever said: Wonder whose stumping up the cash to make sure the club doesn’t go bust while in admin. . ? 23 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Is it beyond the realms of possibility Blitz and a consortium could buy the club? I asked the above earlier BP. Keegan says in the article that funds are in place to make sure the club doesn’t go bust while in admin. Where is that money coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 As I see it Blitz can only lose what the football club owes him. Almo stand to lose millions. Doing this now gives us a reasonable chance of keeping efl status. It is not in his best interests for the club to fold - he could even take it on again short term. We need a win today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Said a few times, there’s serious interest in buying our club but Lemsagam has been asking for silly money in return for basically no asset value. Any goodwill has dwindled to nothing as he’s alienated the fanbase. It’s toxic now but administration could well rid the sale process of Lemsagam and make the sale a very fast process. Prospectives owners know the fanbase is there and with investment on the field plus tapping into the heritage of our club in our 125th anniversary year will deliver a decent ST income to help that drive. It’s not difficult that with the right PR, promise in the playing side and a new hierarchy overturning every faux pas by Lemsagam will get the fans returning. Blitz is engaging to sell the stadium and OEC for a fair price, which not only unites the club in name and home but delivers a commercial activity with huge potential to make the club sustainable and a focal point in safeguarding professional football in the town. Massive risk that a 12 point deduction will have us too close to Stevenage than I’d like. However there’s enough games left, a nucleus of a decent side that could perform much better with a decent manager installed plus playing in much more positive environment around the club and a few extra hundred watching each game until end of the season. Very interesting few weeks coming up.... a new dawn on the horizon? Possibly shades of Orange rather than Tangerine next season?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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