Mr Banks, Zone 3

If we were given the 3 points I reckon we'd still lose them

Alex Reid has just popped up as a pundit on Radio Manchester. Says he hasn't given up hope of a return to action with Latics

I saw the game through the eyes of an outsider yesterday, as I took my mate to his first ever game at Boundary Park. I was embarrassed by the performance, I'd warned him beforehand what to expect as we're so terrible at home, but he was still surprised by just how bad we really were. On the plus side though, he thought the ground and atmosphere were fantastic - at the age of 58 he's decided he wants to become an Athletico . Amazingly, he really does want to come again, so if there are more like him who saw the potential yesterday and enjoyed it despite the performance, maybe all is not lost.

When I were a kid in the Chaddy, the sight of the bus drivers appearing in the main stand paddock was a welcome sign that there wasn't long left to hang on. Or, more frequently, a worrying reminder that there wasn't long left to get something from the game . I used to get the 420 match special back to Failsworth, it was regularly ambushed at Fetherstall Road roundabout by visiting fans being escorted back to Werneth station... I soon learned to sit upstairs.

That's maybe just a reference to Frank's 'Atlantic Crossing'.

Cheers, must admit I didn't watch the full interview, so was unaware he was cup-tied

Leon Clarke signs for Mickleover, will probably play against us next week... https://fb.watch/oG5e_Lzoxo/

We want 7!

Dubose played one first team game, at home against Darlington in the League Cup. I remember it well, he had a slightly 'unorthodox' style - a tendency to try to save everything with his legs and he kept legging it out of his area - but still managed to keep a clean sheet though

It was Dougie Anderson who was born in Hong Kong, no longer with us sadly. Darron McDonough was born in Antwerp as has been correctly stated, although he lived near me in Failsworth. Here's another couple of overseas players (apologies if they've already been mentioned and I've missed them), does anyone remember Winston Dubose or Orpheo Keizerweerd?!

Steve Edwards was playing at a much higher level, he must have had some ability to be playing in what would now be the Championship.

Aww, I liked Steve Edwards, always gave 100%

For me, Fondop cost us that today, he's a total liability and unprofessional. If he doesn't get sent off and Reid/Shelton take their chances I reckon we win comfortably against a decent side. It's all if's and but's though and Unsworth reverting to his default defensive nonsense at the start of the 2nd half cost us just as much. All in all it's adding up to a nightmare start to the season and the league table is an absolute embarrassment.

Thanks very much for posting. Really good video, the fella seems quite a character and very gracious as you say

Any chance of posting a link to this please? I can't find it. Cheers

I really don't fancy us tomorrow. The injuries, the rumours, the silence since last week's debacle... for me it all adds up to a 3-0 defeat and me being sat in a Failsworth beer garden by 5pm. I hope I'm proved conclusively wrong!

To cheer myself up I've just watched us beat Luton 1-0 away on the Big Match from 1978, it was on ITV4 this morning. Two teams trying to win the match... how did we ever get from that to this modern 'don't lose at all costs' mentality? I live in an area dominated by United and City fans, but I've always supported Latics loudly and proudly amongst them... today was utterly shocking and embarrassing. Maybe it's sometimes darkest before dawn...

I'd have thought Rodger Wylde must be up there too?? Not here long, but scored plenty whilst he was.

According to the Southend message board there's rumours of a 2pm pitch inspection. It's still raining there and the referee apparently wasn't overly happy with the pitch in the first place

I had the pleasure of meeting him just after the end of the season, I can honestly say you couldn't wish to meet a nicer fella. On that basis I wish him luck too

I totally agree. I went for the BT Sports subscription option at the start of last season, but I won't be renewing it for the reason you state. When Latics are on TV I'll just find a pub showing it (could be tricky, but not impossible, down here in Failsworth).

I remember Joe Royle having the idea of Friday night friendlies in the late 80's, the idea being to make use of the plastic during winter postponements. The only one that actually took place was v West Brom, it was absolutely baltic and only about 600 turned up to watch so the idea was scrapped. I seem to recall we won though, with Gordon Smith scoring his one and only goal for us.

Were you tempted?!

We do have something of a bandwagon starting up though. I'm going to the Southport match with two Man City fans and a West Brom fan, all of whom are taking a big interest in Frank's revolution, they came to a few games last season too