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I agree, there is enough crap and negativity in the modern game as it is. Without people being over sensitive about a fan of a different team being on this site offering a different view on things. I welcome it.

Would we still get a small fee if his contract expires in January, because he is under 23?

Maybe if he moves to a bigger club and is not going to get games, do what Rochdale did a few years ago with Dawson and get Baxter back on loan right away, for the rest of the season?

The BBC have always been like this! Even back in the glory years we hardly got a mention or a look in. Maybe 2 mins on Match of the Day if we were lucky. The rest of the time was filled up with Sir Trevor I talk BOLLOCKS Brooking and his love of West Ham! The only people that mentioned us and stuck up for us was Des Lynam and Alan Hansen. I don't think he liked us because we used to stuff his beloved West Ham.

Good to see the main stand with a new lick of paint. Or I need to adjust my colour setting on the t.v.?

Only caught the second half. But so far I think we have better attack minded players than last season. We were better going forward than last season. The defence still scares me. Especially when Cisak, M'voto or Tarky loose concentration. They have got to be more focused than they were tonight. This was there problem last season.

This is a good point and there have been times when I have felt like this especially this season and having to resort to YOUTUBE to remember how good we once were. But to be fair I feel both Simon Corney and Paul Dickov are doing the best they can in a bad situation. In Simon's case he is doing the best he can, that the other board members need to step up and help him. Also the the off field staff need to step up and show some initiative in that the club cares about its dwindling fanbase. If Mike Newton is not on the board for investment, then what is he there for? This was the man who was trying to take over Stockport and Port Vale last year, why is he not investing in Latics? As opposed to regular visits to the training ground. As for Dickov right now managing this club with budget and players at his disposal is like asking somebody to make a camp fire with nothing else but 2 wet twigs.

Hell Yes!! It would make sense for the club in the long term. It worked very well for us first time round! Anything to help us get back to where we belong!

I was not happy over the fact that they put that article online, when they had nothing set in stone. Thats different. Thats going back to my point of thinking before making statements.

Penney had a much bigger squad to work with than Dickov, also sent a few players who maybe should of got a chance, out on loan and he had 3 owners money to spend rather than 1, who does not have a lot to invest, apparently.

Exactly its still too early to be calling for the managers head. I was not attacking anyone, just joining in the debate. I just wish at times, the club would think before putting stuff out there for fans to read. Also I wish there was more transparency between club and fans. But that's a debate for another time?

I kinda get what saying, but not the way you said it. But all I am saying is the club should not be putting statements out there, unless its set in stone or they can fulfil there statement. I would rather they go about there business quietly until they can seal the deal. Anyway the problem is not Dickov, its higher up and goes further back, before Dickov came here.

I know that, but its the same rhetoric, every season, "We are not going to sell players on the cheap." and we do. "Money will go back into the club on transfers" and it doesn't. There was that story on the OS about getting a top class striker and then that went quiet. All I am saying don't make statements you can't back up! Because that's just very misleading to the fans, when they fail to deliver on them. As the saying goes, "Don't let your mouth write a cheque that your ass can't cash."

But in the same respect, this is same board who said in the summer, firstly we won't be selling our top players on the cheap and the money on the players sold will be spent on buying new players. What happened to that then?(probably all used to pay off Feeney)

To be honest, I don't blame Dickov for our current plight. He is a good manager at a badly runned club. He has been given no money to invest in the team. He has had to cut his cloth accordingly. Strikers who can find the net, outside the penalty spot don't come cheap! If you want to vent your frustration, email Hardy and co!

I can confirm, that you can get LW overseas.

Once again Prozac, you have read my mind, and pretty much nailed what I have been feeling about latics, the fanbase and the town. Thats why I have not been on here for a while. I've just gone past caring, if its not the happy-clappy make do merchant group of fans, trying to shout you down, its the short sightedness of the people running the club, who expect fans to pay £20, to watch a club situated in a town that is dieing on its knees where half the population is out of work or £20 is a lot to spend every other week. Then theres the council of the town who seem to lack ambition and seem only able to have the ability and interest to build houses and mosque's. I said a few weeks ago to my family that I would be surprised if we manage to stay in business in 2 years time. I've changed that to I would be happy if we stayed in business next season even if we start with -10 points.

I have to agree with Lookers Carl on this one. If our board had the balls to sack Penney when he needed to be sacked, we would still have a fan base and I would not be in the mess we are now in finacially.

No it's not, can only get Brentford commentry.

I thought we sold it to city?

Sorry, don't agree with you. He brought all that abuse on himself with the statements he made at the beginning of last season, only to serve up the shower of :censored: that was his style of football. I hope he takes the player's he brought in that are transfer listed with him! Worst manager since Sharp!

+1 Rick Holden for me, my favourite latics player of all time!

Bring back the entrance music we used during the Premier league years.

Did you see the SC interview on PLAYER, this week? Where he said negotiations are ongoing in regards to the finances of the club. That he had a few irons in the fire.

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