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Hands on

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  1. The partial lockdown approach ensures that herd immunity even if possible will take much longer to evolve, it is what would naturally happen, but Boris has confirmed that the strategy is based on suppressing the virus until a vaccine can be developed. We know from Influenza that both herd immunity & vaccination programs do not prevent deaths when a virus mutates and forms many different strains. It is not this simplistic as the really nasty flu viruses often arise when they jump from species to species. There is no reason to believe that Covid is any different. In
  2. There are different views on the way forward. There is the avoid catching and passing it on at any cost approach that looks like being adopted more rigorously this week notwithstanding the deaths, deprivation and mental health issues it causes BUT there is also the time has come for us to accept that the virus isn't going to go away and we have to learn how to live with it approach. I say adopting the current approach more rigorously but my feeling is that our Government has now lost the consent of the people for this as 'the people' of Oldham have clearly demonstrated by not doin
  3. My advice is for all the young and not so old to exchange bodily fluids so they can catch Covid and build some herd immunity to give us old codgers a chance. Trying to hide again will definitely make the cure worse than the virus
  4. I wondered how Marco had paid off Blitz but he didn't and still has another £400k to find so there is hope that administration will see him gone and the club surviving. It is a fairly good bet that at least two more league 2 clubs will get into financial trouble after the doom and gloom assessment by Whitty & Valance which, would appear to pave the way for more restrictions on social mixing and movement. We could survive by being one of the last clubs standing. A winter of discontent approaches.
  5. The original "statement" has disappeared and been replaced by a much shorter version. There were signs during the interregnum that the club was moving in the right direction and then the football had to start again..............
  6. Is it possible he can’t make substitutions until he gets the nod and his phone is BT and like my market leading home hub is not working [I turned it off whilst away on holiday (remember those)].
  7. A sort of unfrench name. However something has changed at the ice station.
  8. I'm hoping they all get to play at a higher level - next year!
  9. Thanks. I have now worked out why it doesn't work for me. I moved from the North Stand during the season and the reference number next to my name is not the same as my main stand seat reference number.
  10. Well I have tried to support whatever it is that is going on at ice station zebra but I can't renew my seat as it is covered by a grey dot. It seems I can only buy a blue dot so I have emailed and guess what I'm not in favour even though I have forgone the refund because NA has not replied to ME. Why oh why if the shop is the club shop can't they become the ticket office as well. Anyone been successful and know the route to renewing?
  11. Is it not 40% capacity which is only a problem if there is a large away following. Has to be all ticket even all season ticket but lets see. Looking forward to days out again but can't see them playing before October either as otherwise have to reduce the price of season tickets for the two games (at least) we will miss.
  12. Of course you might believe I'm one of the fit and healthy young or middle aged. I'm not but my children and my children's children are. My views are based on reviewing the information I can find on coronaviruses, it is out there, and the impact lockdown has had and is having. Put simply if the children, young and middle aged had been allowed to get on with life our NHS would undoubtedly have coped (look at the numbers). Our society would not be under threat and our economy heading for a depression with millions needlessly unemployed. Open your eyes! Who do you thin
  13. What a mess! The lock down appears to have been the creation of healthcare where every life must be saved without regard to the cost or indirect consequences. An NHS that has given up the day job, mass unemployment, ruined economy, impact on mental health, children removed from education and all those people who will lose their lives as a consequence from suicide to the failure of GPs to identify who needs help now. Even worse the message has created a population with an irrational fear of SARS-CoV-2. Undoubtedly there is risk but the people who should take action to avoid getting
  14. I think there is a very useful formula for calculating a refund on your season ticket. Work out what it would have cost to attend the games that took place and compare to the price of your season ticket resulting in no refund. I wonder if they will refund the £26 I paid for two guests to attend the Swindon game. I would settle for tickets to another game which, the way the hysterical are going will be 21/22 season or am I being too optimistic because by then we will have discovered either that any vaccine only gives short term immunity or the many mutations of SARS-cov-2 just sid
  15. Well now they are probably going to have the 2020/21 season to think about it. The realisation that SARS-cov-2 is going to stick around for some time must eventually penetrate the thick skulls of those who think we can beat it. Coronaviruses are a bit tricksy.
  16. The WHO are not saying you don't get immunity they are just saying it hasn't been proved that you do. The problem they have is that if you don't get immunity all the effort being made to produce a vaccine is wasted. If that is the case the effort should be directed towards finding ways to help people recover more quickly from an infection. There is the problem that this coronavirus produces so many different responses. This ranges from some people developing no symptoms to those it kills. Given the range of response it is possible that the virus might be killed off b
  17. I disagree with all of you. The reason I disagree is that we will not be able to start 'next' season in August. I can not see football in front of paying spectators this year - I hope I'm wrong. There is nothing wrong with teams changing their players during a season - we do it every year in January. There is nothing wrong with teams playing less than their best side at the end of the season - we have this every season when teams have nothing to play for. So if we can't start next season why not find some way to end this season even if it is a neutral ground behind c
  18. Now is the time to win the Euro lottery and buy the club. Just imagine the team you could put together come the end ofJune when most league 1 and 2 players are out of work.
  19. I very much hope that a vaccine will work but the official line is still that there is no evidence that having covid 19 produces immunity - the glass is half empty approach. If this is the case there will be no vaccine that works. Myself I await the antibody test to see if I have those and look for any evidence that immunity isn't produced by having the bloody thing - my glass is half full. The point about immunity is I think the fact that some people seem to knock this virus into the long grass so quickly that they might not have developed antibodies to do so.
  20. As someone who avoids series I've been been watching one or two box sets. Series 1 always seems the best although as you approach the end the hook for series two gets in the way. I liked Devs because series 1 did have an end but on it goes. Killing Eve, well what a misnomer that is, was OK but series 2 completely unbelievable and so they go on and on.............. The Capture really good until they started thinking about another series. I'm now trying Taboo because Tom Hardy is the central character - can't give up hope. Live sport, any live sport! I'd even watch tennis - how
  21. I think an agreement has been reached for players to be furloughed if the March salaries are paid in full. For anyone that doesn't agree redundancy was mentioned although I don't know how that works for employees on fixed term short contracts.
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